Saturday, August 19, 2006

How to make a homebrew liquid bomb and terrorize a nation

It’s a little harder than it sounds.

From the reports in the media these are the ingredients that the British jihadist bombers were planning to create ‘murder and mayhem on an unprecedented scale’ with.

Your aim is to make triacetone triperoxide in a dried powdered form, a high explosive which can be made from 'common household chemicals' and which is 'unlikely to be caught by airport screeners'. This you will make on the plane while in the toilet. The ingredients you will need:

Adequately concentrated hydrogen peroxide. You will have to concerntrate this yourself, which is difficult. Better get a trained chemist to do it for you. Doing it yourself is risky.

Acetone and sulfuric acid.

Add vegetable dye to some of these (very unstable) ingredients and put in drinks bottles such as Powerade energy drink.

Remember to pack in your hand luggage several frozen gel-packs, preferably in a Styrofoam chiller (hydrogen peroxide must be kept near freezing point otherwise it ain’t gonna work), a thermometer, a large beaker, a stirring rod, and a medicine dropper.

Get on plane and slip into small toilet.

The Register mercilessly tells us how to do the rest:

‘Once your kit is in place, put a beaker containing the peroxide / acetone mixture into the ice water bath [from the first class Champagne bucket of course], and start adding the acid, drop by drop, while stirring constantly. Watch the reaction temperature carefully. The mixture will heat, and if it gets too hot, you'll end up with a weak explosive. In fact, if it gets really hot, you'll get a premature explosion possibly sufficient to kill you, but probably no one else.

After a few hours - assuming, by some miracle, that the fumes haven't overcome you or alerted passengers or the flight crew to your activities - you'll have a quantity of TATP with which to carry out your mission. Now all you need to do is dry it for an hour or two.

You see – it’s easy to be a jihadist, nihilist suicide bomber. You just need some very tricky ingredients, a virtual laboratory in your hand luggage and half a day or more left alone in the airplane toilet.


beatroot said...

Of course its nonsense....and political theatre....BAD political theatre.

You see, that looks close to me like the “Ah, it was all to distract attention from Lebanon” type gibberish of nice middle class white ladies who walk in demonstrations with banners that read ‘We are all Hezbollah now’…..

This is not part of any conspiracy by governments.

What it is, is another panicky attempt by governments to prove they are doing ‘something’ about the ‘terrorist threat’.

I assume there are a few nutters plotting wild schemes such as this, and they probably had some kind of plan to do something. And occasionally these adolescent middle class nihilists will do something horrible.

These people are an occasional threat to people in big cities and airplanes in the west (and a lot more dangerous to the poor people of the middle east). But where governments and anti Islamo-fascists go very wrong is in imaging than these jihadist fools are a ‘threat to western civilization’ as we know it and ‘to our way of life’.

The jihadists are just picking up on the weaknesses of western values with its relativism etc and also playing up to the multicultural ‘victim mentality’ that is prevalent in the UK.

Jihadists are the Super Victims. But they are no threat to ‘our way of life’…but we are in our panicky reaction to them.

beatroot said...

Almost every bogus threat I listed was non-operational....

But these kinds of people have and will do horrible, barbaric things in London, in Germany (where two bombs failed to go off last month), in Madrid, in the US. They will do it again. My point is…that while they are a danger, occasionally, to individuals, random bombings are not a threat to civilization. Neither is their ‘ideology’…are you tempted by it? No, neither am I.

lets also remember who colonized the middle east and how the US (especially) propped up various dictators (and still do) and this, in fact, is what has created the extremists that are out there.... desperation and poverty and oppression.

I think that works in the context of the middle east and elsewhere in unstable, developing countries where violence is a fact of life, anyway.

But ‘desperation and poverty and oppression’ doesn’t work with the typical British jihadist (or those of 9/11 infamy) who were largely from educated, middle class backgrounds who became ‘radicalized’ a long way from the dusty streets of the third world.

More of which in comment in post above…

roman said...


You said: "terror means muslim to most people....never mind ETA and the Hindu fanatics that burned up muslims in Gujurat, or the abortion clinic bombers in the US, or northern ireland, and on and on and on were NOT muslims."

Your argument and examples against the recognition and profiling of Muslims in the terrorist threat are very week indeed. ETA, Hindus and abortion clinic bombers? Are you joking? How anyone can seriously offer these groups as true comparisons to the Islamofascist terrorist threat is ludicrous. The average person on the street is not worried about the folks you cited but very much afraid of the Muslim terrorists.
Do some research. Ask your neighbors. I did and I do not get the same viewpoints that you so consistently convey. It could just be a geographical difference but anyone residing in New York City, DC, Seatle, London, Madrid, Bali, Toronto and many more would be inclined to fear Islamic terror more than the examples you cite. Don't get me wrong, I would like to believe you and acquire your "carefree" attitude but those various Islamic terror groups around the globe just keep plotting to kill more and more people every day.

roman said...


One man's "racist war mongers" are another man's presagers. I tend to put my faith into people who work within the system and not those who resort to killing innocents. Your downplaying of the overwhelming evidence of the Islamofascist terror threat is hollow and unconvincing. All these Islamofascist groups that commit heinous murderous acts around the world have one thing in common. They have no stated demands. The only conclusion we can draw from this is that their agenda is one of nihilism. With this in mind, how can "we" act any different?
Singing KUMBAYA and listening to grievances just does not seem to work with this crowd.

beatroot said...

Roman: All these Islamofascist groups that commit heinous murderous acts around the world have one thing in common. They have no stated demands.

There is a contradiction there. If there is an Islamo fascist threat...which makes no demands...(true) then what is the threat, apart from a very nasty bomb now and again?

I repeat: the threat to our way of life is coming from within our own culture.

roman said...


You said: "what is the threat, apart from a very nasty bomb now and again?"

I assume that mankind will keep progressing both scientifically and technologically. The nasty bomb you pooh pooh now will eventually have the capability to turn entire cities into nuclear waste. A religious fanatic whose only purpose in life is to secure everlasting happiness in the "afterlife" will not think twice to bring this wish to a speedy conclusion. The combination of more insane fanatics and rapidly increasing availability of nuclear tecnology does not favor law and order societies but rather lawlessness and chaos. Places like Darfur and Somalia will be utopian compared to when civil societal structures break down. The term "Dead Enders" was'nt just Saddam's loyalists, it is the ultimate threat facing "civilized" mankind or even mankind itself. I hope I'm wrong and my prescient skills are far overated but the pieces of this puzzle are starting to take an ominous shape.

roman said...


Google terrorist attacks around the world and find a list of attacks on innocent people around the globe. Pay special attention to the groups which perpetrated these acts in the last twenty or so years. This is the period that is most likely to influence future events, IMHO.
The vast majority are perpetrated by Muslim inspired fanatics hell bent on taking innocent lives. Go to any "far right neo-con blogsite and you will find lists and lists of these terror incidents. Why can I so readily find these facts and you seem to be incapable of doing the same? I am sure that I am not any smarter or more intuitively endowed than you.
Is it because there might be some measure of truth on "those" sights and it is more comfortable to remain within the sphere of like-minded viewpoint enforcers?

beatroot said...

Link not working, Step. But already I see Daily Mail.....not even the beatroot's favourite toilet paper.

roman said...


You asked: "Are the dead civilians in Iraq also innocent lives, do you think? I'd like you to answer that. Or the civilains in afganistan. Do they count as innocent lives?"

Did you really think I could ever respond to this question with a no? Talk about "demonizing!
Yes it is amazing that the Shia are killing and maiming innocent Sunnis and vice versa. It's truly horrible that this sectarian violence is taking place while the coalition forces stand agape in wonderment. Do you really blame the "west" for this killing? Killing that has been going on since the Sunni and Shia split over a thousand years ago. Not in any direct manner but somehow by a clever turn of phrase you always manage. Sectarian violence within the Muslim communities claim more innocent lives than the west could ever be accused of perpetrating. Why did'nt Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Jordan embrace the Palestinian people who were exiled from Israel and make them their brothers and sisters? Why did they set up refugee camps and let them live in squalor and treat them with disdain? These people were (and are presently being) used by the rest of the Arab world as pawns in their ancient attempt to remove (some may call it genocide) jews from their midst. Do the research and get the stats.
Do I live in a cartoon world? You're the only one who has made that accusation (to date) so it rings a little hollow.
Also, what is this?? Already accusing me of racism?
Again you're the only one (to date). I don't buy it.
Your anti-west and anti-democratic views are clearly identifiable through your incessant apologist stance for Muslim fundamentalist fanaticism. Your views are part of the problem and not part of the solution.
I was'nt sure before but now recognize your "signature" style of intimidation by ad hominem attack and marginal viewpoints and realize that we have debated before on other blogs (mostly lefty) where you utilized another "nom de plume". I suspect you have many id's but cleverly never reveal anything about yourself. You might as well post anonymously and remove the contrived aura of genuine identifiable integrity. You're not fooling anyone.
I wish you peace and happiness.

beatroot said...

I am disappointed. The positive thing about blogs is that it brings people together who wouldn’t normally meet so they can have a good row.

But when it gets personal, I find it a real turn off.

So, Roman. Why this kind of stuff?

we have debated before on other blogs (mostly lefty) where you utilized another "nom de plume". I suspect you have many id's but cleverly never reveal anything about yourself.

Roman, I actually don’t think you have debated before on other blogs. And so what if you have? The point about the comment part of blogs is that we don’t have to reveal anything about ourselves. If our arguments are crap then an intelligent person can simply take them apart.

Let’s lay off the personals and stick with the politics!

Getting personal is the last refuge of those who are losing the argument.

And that goes for anyone who wants to debate stuff here.

Step: I know the story. They don’t say exactly what these people were doing. Perhaps they were appearing in public with long beards. Who knows? But it is worrying.

And that would be my point. It is not what these jihadist wankers do that is the real problem in the long run, it’s how we react to it that will change our way of life,…or not. .

beatroot said...

BBC is reporting that one of the eye witnesses on the plane said...

It became apparent that the reason that some of the people didn't board the plane was because somebody had overheard the gentlemen in question speaking - I think it was Arabic."

Arabic! Oh, dear. I thought I was joking when I said it was because they had long beards....

roman said...


How do you arive at such a conclusive statement??: "Roman, I actually don’t think you have debated before on other blogs."

Also fair play is called for here.
Any casual reader of these comments will immediately recognize that it was steppx who made the first direct personal attack by using the old standby phrase of "you're a racist"!
I agree that "Getting personal is the last refuge of those who are losing the argument" and hope that steppx will refrain from such childish tactics in the future.

roman said...


Just in. Over 3000 dead from SECTARIAN violence in Iraq just in the last month.

beatroot said...

Roman - I agree that the 'racist' tag is an easy ploy to play. It's a word that should be used very selectivly.

But I doubt that Stepxx uses another alias - why would someone use two aliases - aliasi?

Anonymous said...

Too much information.. The people that would do such a thing have no value system and certain serve no God of any kind. Every religion knows to serve God is to help others, not to kill them for a different point of view. Stop publishing stuff to encourge these people.

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Anonymous said...

thank you very much for placing this on a website, this has been a great learning experience for me as it has just passed an hour of my life, when i should have been in my chemistry lesson, which incidently we were being taught how to make explosives. thanks again and i will see you in the next life infidels... ;)

E.R.Shadows said...

This will help me!! Thanx for posting this up!! Now the people that f*cked with me will pay! :) So by June 15th be by your televisions and watch for the next school massacre :)


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