Sunday, December 16, 2007

Simon Mol charged with infecting 12 Polish women with HIV


Almost a year after he was first detained by police in Warsaw, the Cameroonian ‘refugee’, poet and human rights activist is finally charged by the prosecution service, and faces a long jail sentence.

Mol’s case, as it was revealed in a blaze of outrage in the Polish media in January this year, is a tabloid journo’s dream.

An African who had won refugee status and had become a well-known media figure, campaigning on human rights and race issues in Poland, was accused by numerous women in Warsaw of infecting them with HIV, while all along knowing that he was carrying the virus.

But the case is not just about whether he knew, or not, that he was HIV positive (although that is what the court, when he finally comes before a judge, will be deciding). When asked by the women to use protection before sex, he had refused, claiming that they were only asking him to wear a condom because he was ‘an African’.

When the Rzeczpospolita daily went to Cameroon and Nigeria to examine whether Mol’s claims of political persecution in those countries was true, they found that his family, friends and work colleagues knew nothing about it. It seems that Mol was an economic migrant, not a political refugee. Mol's side of the story is here.

So, in one case we have a deadly combination of sex, race and politics. If you had to write a prototype tabloid shock, horror story, then this was it.

Of course, if the prosecution can prove that Mol knew he had HIV and had deliberately infected women as some kind of political ‘revenge’ – and this has been suggested in the press coverage here – then this is a very, very nasty crime, indeed, and nobody would be too upset if they slung him in jail and threw away the key.

Simon Mol and the ‘Warsaw Salon’

Many of the women who slept with Mol seem to come from artistic, liberal circles, known here as the ‘Salon’. Mol was a poet and writer (though not a particularly good one) who was a member of many cultural societies and political organizations in Poland. He was allied to the small Green Party, but also a member of an ex-pats’ writer’s club based in Warsaw.

After I was asked to join the same writer’s club, this summer, I was talking to one of the organizers about the Mol case. The guy told a familiar tale, of feeling ‘betrayed’ by Simon. Everyone was taken in by him, and not just the 12 women infected with HIV, and the many others who were lucky enough to get away with the encounter.

I also took part in a UK documentary about the culture of Polish soccer fans, which was filmed in Warsaw and Krakow late last year. One of the other contributors was Simon Mol, who was involved in the ‘Kick Racism out of Football’ campaign. I got a slightly worried email in March, this year, from the British producers of the film, asking whether Mol’s presence in the documentary would damage its credibility. It was too early to say yes or no, as nothing has been proved in a court of law, one way or another (and we should remember that it still hasn’t). I don’t know whether they have kept Mol in the film, but if I was the documentary maker, I probably would have left him on the cutting room floor.

I met Mol a few times, and he was a convincing character. He seemed genuine. And what he talked about – the inadequate refugee services in Poland, the racism he and other Africans encountered, remains, despite the fact the Mol himself allegedly appears to have been charlatan, essentially true.

Mol has left many angry, disappointed, and sick people in his wake. What is also worrying is the damaged image of genuine African refugees in Poland. They have joined the long list of victims of the actions of Simon Mol, the man whose poetry seduced a nation.

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beakerkin said...

Beatroot

90% of the refugee and asylum cases in the USA are denied. The level of fraud and abuse in those areas is quite high.

In the USA the far left has been an
active participant in this fraud. One can quickly discern the cookie cutter identical applications. The level of criminality is also quite high. It is not uncommon to find lengthy criminal records.

One can quickly notice the difference in a standard B'hai case from Iran or Syrian Jewish case quite easily. The information is specific and quite disturbing.

Refugee slots should be used only
by those who need them. They should be made available for those
fleeing Ren's buddies in Zimbabwe, North Korea and Hugo's blunderland.

The history of third world people telling far left types stories that
match their fables is well documented. Rigoberta Menchu's account was debunked, but her fable is still being given to students in
US universities.

shhhhh said...

If a twig falls in the forest with nobody around does it make a sound?

geez said...

Did his poetry seduce a nation?

A bit hyperbolic, no?

beatroot said...

Hyperbullshit, actually.

But he did become a minor celeb here. Which is why the crash is so noisy, hence the metaphooooorrrrr.

But there again, if nobody was around to hear the crash, then...

Anonymous said...

Do you think that being so thoroughly misled by Mr. Mol is going to deter the 'Salon' from trying to set the standards for everyone else?

Anonymous said...

Great news!
I hope the story of the «anti-fascist of the year 2003» will be known by millions.
It´s time to get rid of these criminal parasites forever.

Anonymous said...

The most dramatic aspect of all of this are stories about Mol forcing women to have unprotected sex with him by arguing that using a condom with a black man is a sign of racism and racist fears; that it is politically incorrect. This is coupled with the fact that for many women, having unprotected sex with a black man fulfilled two politically correct obligations: it was trendy to have sex with a black man, and it was also a sign that one was not prejudiced against blacks...."

"Simon Mol always accused everybody of racism. When you didn't do what he wished, he would yell that it was because he was black. He never listened to any arguments, he would always just leave, slamming the door behind him. Everyone knew that he could make his accusations public, and everyone feared it," says a person who runs a humanitarian organization that helps refugees. "It goes without saying; he terrorized us with political correctness. And he was very charming as well."

«Simon Mol is healthy, and this whole affair is the result of incompetence on the part of the justice system and racism in Poland' - that is what many foriegners living in Warsaw believe to this day. They write about it on their blogs-The Beatroot is one of his main supporters.»

Anonymous said...

�the man whose poetry seduced a nation�- you must be joking...

michael farris said...

"The most dramatic aspect of all of this are stories about Mol forcing women to have unprotected sex with him"

AFAICT he didn't 'force' any women to have sex with him, he indicated his pre-conditions (no condoms!) at which point the women should have told him that was a deal breaker and left.

The picture I get of the guy (all third hand and I never heard of him before his arrest) is a high functioning sociopath (who inevitably can be charming when it serves their purpose).

Renegade Eye said...

Michael Farris is correct. He exhibited classic sociopathic tendencies, particularly the charm.

Beakerkin is best read in the original German.

beatroot said...

...I thought it was in German...

A sociopath. Yeah, maybe. But I think he believed a lot of what he was doing, so other psychological conditions, too. Paranoid, delusional, all that and a bit more.

But just imagone what this Christmas is going to be like for those 12 women...

opamp said...

But he did become a minor celeb here. Which is why the crash is so noisy, hence the metaphooooorrrrr.

Did he? I have learned about him from this blog when the case erupted. So he's hardly a celibrity, in my book. (Well, maybe he was one in your saloon -- but I stay away from such establishments).

Anonymous said...

By the way, why is (black) Harry so quiet?

Anonymous said...

Anyone who supported or showed any kind of sympathy for this murderer in the past, should be charged as well.
His accomplices should be convicted too.

michael farris said...

anonymous 12:57 is in favor of prosecuting people for thoughtcrime. how ... drole.

beakerkin said...

The cheerleader of Communist class genocide now goes into a standard Nazi comment. Perhaps he should look into his own record. Poles,including my own family, are familiar with Trotsky's record as a war criminal.
My grandfather was quite adept at nailing Bolsheviks in the head in the war of 1920.

Beatroot

The admission of refugees is a calculated risk. Most of us, aside from Commies like Ren, do not want to knowingly send people back to a country where they will be tortured or killed. The sad part is the system is abused by fakes, criminal
and politically motivated lunatics.

In the USA AIDS patients may be admited with a medical waiver. Every, candidate is screened prior to admission. There are many such cases but we read about very few of these episodes.

Your post says far more about Mol and his friends than it does about Poland.

Anonymous said...

If You Lie Down with Dogs, You Wake Up with Fleas...Those bitches got what they deserved.

Anonymous said...

The true story of this murderer in his own words is still online LOL:


http://www.simonmol.com/2004/07/the_true_story_.html

Anonymous said...

I hope that those women didnt spread the virus more among the native Polish population.

The good news is that this story will dominate the news in the next years. This will awake many Polish people.

Anonymous said...

"Simon would viciously fight the view that Africa is a continent rife with catastrophe and AIDS. He would brush off suggestions that black men could be infected with HIV, he believed such suggestions to be racist stereotypes," says a young woman who once organized meetings with Simon Mol.


LOL LOL

Anonymous said...

If some women had not been corrupted by the academia and the culture of political correctness to believe that they owed sexual gratification to Simon Mol on account of his skin color and status as a member of an "oppressed" group, this tragedy would have been avoided.»

Bertold Kittel, Maja Narbutt, Editor's Comment by Peter S Rieth
Rzeczpospolita nr 7
09-01-2007

wasp said...

sadly not the first or the last African who has got naive white European girls into a terrible mess. The lure of the black mamba can have nasty consequences.

michael farris said...

Oh joy, the Mol Patrol (accent on the last syllable) is back. I'm outta this thread.

beatroot said...

Yeah, it seems that Mol is not the only sociopath in town...

Opamp: I did say 'minor' celeb, and that is what he is/was. He has appeared on numerous media, and is quite well-known in Warsaw, at least.

Oh, and BWT - the only 'salon' I am a member of is the Beatroot Salon - surly the highest class salon there is...

Anonymous said...

At least, the other «sociotaths» don´t infect girls with AIDS and are not social parasites like the «Antifascist of the year».

It´s a hard truth, isn´t it Beatroot?

Anonymous said...

Does this case remind anyone of the late unlamented Jack Unterweger?

Harry said...

Anonymous said...
By the way, why is (black) Harry so quiet?


Sorry, I was busy fucking your mother. Which reminds me, don't call your sister tonight. She'll be really busy.

I look forward to the day that you finally manage to get some stupid woman drunk enough that she can't fight you off when you rape her (let's face it, you're never going to get laid any other way) and she gets pregnant so you have to marry her. Then I'll be able to fuck your wife too.

Anonymous said...

My slight provocation was a way of showing everyone the level of speech of Harry, a black who defends Simon Mol to the extreme.
No need to add anything...his words are enough.LOL

jannowak57 said...

Beatroot said: “I met Mol a few times, and he was a convincing character. He seemed genuine. And what he talked about – the inadequate refugee services in Poland”

This was likely an unintended Freudian slip; he was likely amazed at the ease with which his bogus refugee claim got processed. Incompetent officials let this guy in, what possible scrutiny of the facts took place if he was so easily unveiled by the media? These government services are responsible for an aspect of public safety, if he got through who else got through?

It is clearly the experience of most western countries that political refugee claims are often fraudulent, in the majority of applications. An economic refugee isn’t a political refugee.

Lets not get to tearful about his victims, if you’re dumb enough to have unprotected sex with someone from a high risk area, it’s not a race issue, it’s a your stupid issue.

“the man whose poetry seduced a nation” –you got a be kidding, this guy bamboozled the Warsaw Salon and nobody else. In some sense we have a win win situation here a foreign parasite eliminated 12 members of a Polish parasitic group in turn causing his own demise…does it get better?

geez said...

I've never been able to comprehend why some folks try to make a virtue out of being politically imbecilic.

Oh and "parasitic groups"? Ye gads, methinks your Nazi slip is showing.

jannowak57 said...

geez said: “...Ye gads, methinks your Nazi slip is showing.”

Please allow me to pull up my slip so you may see the entirety of my political instrument, awesome isn’t it…as I know you had visualization.

As for Nazi (national socialist), you are already aware, I do not approve of socialism. Lets get to this politically imbecilic comment of yours………obviously my political view point is correct.

Society labels my views as right-wing; the right actually stands for we’re right about our views. In the same sense as left-wings means your out in left field with your views.

Have you finally got this straight?

beatroot said...

Poetry that fooled a nation

Metaphor, innit? He fooled a few women; he fooled the refugee services; he fooled a lot of media people, who liked him in their programs and in their articles, documentaries. He was ‘good copy’. He would have fooled you, too.

But Jan: if you knew anything about the refugee centers you would know that they are chronically understaffed and underfunded, with a massively inefficient red tape brigade behind them. They can’t cope with the mainly Chechnya clientele (and if you think they are all ‘bogus’ then maybe a trip down that part of Russia would come in useful).

It is clearly the experience of most western countries that political refugee claims are often fraudulent, in the majority of applications.

Is that based on any kind of facts, or just another of your prejudices?

Lets not get to tearful about his victims,

Sorry, call me old fashioned, but I do usually feel sorry for people with life threatening deceases…I don’t care how they come across them.


here a foreign parasite eliminated 12 members of a Polish parasitic group in turn causing his own demise…does it get better?

Dear, oh dear, oh dear…

Society labels my views as right-wing…

No, I don’t think your views are right wing, on this matter. They are just very very ignorant. Don’t kid yourself. These are not 'political' ‘views’ at all…they are something a little more atavistic than that.

Anonymous said...

Thank God, the story of social parasite Simon Mol is being told all over the world.
Left wing/anti racist scum will have a hard time in the near future.

helga hegel said...

My oh my Janny oh Janny...

Your describing your manly member just so positively makes me swoon.

I do believe I'm catching the vapors.

geez said...

ISTM that Naziism and fascism was/is more atavistic than ideological.

It is good to know, though, Jan that you consider yourself to be politically correct, however wrongly.

Hmm, left field? And I thought you a Pole.

Anonymous said...

The ex?-junkie who owns this blog can´t hide his embarassment for backing this murderer for such a long time.

Who laughs last laughs best...

beatroot said...

Ah, hah, The Cretin is back.

Ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce you to what Mike F calls the Mol Patrol (emphasis on second syllable of second word). It is referring to a post I did around the same time as the Simon Mol case first broke, (when I was in Egypt) earlier this year. It was a post that included me saying that I had had a smoke or something…or maybe it was describing my role in the early rave movement in the late 1980s, early 1990s – with all that involved.

But no, I was never a ‘junky’.

Oh, and Cretin – what sewer do you usually hang out on the internet? Go on, show us the type of people you hang with.

beatroot said...

Oh, great. I have just been watching the ‘hilarious’ ‘satirical’ Szymon Majewski Show on TVN. So, cool, so ‘liberal’ channel.

They had a cut away of ex-First Lady Jolanta Kwasniewska (Aleksander’s wife) asking questions, on her fashion show on TVN Style (yeah, weird…she really does have one) asking someone out of shot of camera about her [?] ‘mala czarna’ or ‘little black dress’, and that ‘she must have one in the wardcrobe. Then we have Majewski comedian dressed up as a burak or greasy haired low life, sitting in front of his wardrobe saying, “Of course, I have a mala (little) czarna (black) in my wardrobe…’ And then he opens the door of wardrobe and out comes a male blacked up Polish mistral in a dress.

Ha, ha, ha…what a great, mature, sense of humour!

No what I mean, Jan?

jannowak57 said...

Mol was mistake on behave of a subculture that really has no new idea of values or anything that could be of value to society, they parrot the leftist liberal crap so common to the irrelevant academics that inhabit some western university cultures. These people take comfort in their idle and irrelevant existence; cutting those lives short will not negatively impact anything. Mol could consider this part of his defence.

Beatroot said: “can’t cope with the mainly Chechnya clientele”

Good try however the so-called Chechens are often ethnic Russians from that region i.e. the perpetrators not the victims. Many Russians show up at the border proclaim they to are Chechens. These are economic refugees who should be refused entry only ethnic Chechens (Muslims) can truly qualify as refugees. Preferably those that show up with a few Russian cap badges.

Beatroot said: “He would have fooled you, too”

He didn’t fool anyone in normal mainstream Polish society; he managed to fool a few at the fringe, a parasitic fringe that makes no contribution to the nation.

Beatroot said: “I do usually feel sorry for people with life threatening deceases…I don’t care how they come across them”

They are dying because their judgement and common sense was sidelined because it was not in conformance to the requirements of “politically correct” thinking and behaviour. Since they were likely to spread their views to their offspring the benefit from their demise is even more significant.

Geez said: “And I thought you a Pole”

More than you will ever be! To be specific hundreds of years of pure bloodline uncontaminated by the foreign pestilence that features so prominently in Polish history.

Anonymous said...

The type of people I hang out with don´t infect other people with HIV.

By the way ASSHOLE, how is your barren wife?

jannowak57 said...

Beatroot said: “Ha, ha, ha…what a great, mature, sense of humour!”

For those interested in seeing this episode, here’s the link:

http://szymon.onet.pl/2964251,1,video.html and select Mala czarna


Clearly this is an indication of the creativity of the Polish media; with Mol’s incarceration a shortage has developed. Thereby causing the producers to simulate the required conditions.

Anonymous said...

Not yet mentioned in this thread is the interesting fact that girls having unprotected sex with Mr. Mol probably contracted their HIV by means of anal sex. Regular vaginal sex is a much lesser vector of the virus, as a woman's vagina is constructed by nature to be much less vulnerable than the rectum to the direct-to-blood infusion of the virus from the semen.

Perhaps the old-wives remedy of avoiding pregnancy through anal sex is causing stupid Polish girls who fall for the "have sex with me or you're a racist scum" line of bullshit that Mr. Mol fed them?

Anonymous said...

The gullible girls infected by the false refugee aka as social parasite are being threatened by black thugs at the moment.
They want to help Simon by intimidating his victims.

THIS SORT OF SCUM CAN BE SEEN AROUND WARSAW CENTRAL STATION Sometimes.
ONE OF THESE THUGS COMMENTS HERE UNDER THE NAME «Harry».

geez said...

More than you will ever be! To be specific hundreds of years of pure bloodline uncontaminated by the foreign pestilence that features so prominently in Polish history.

Jesus, a Polish fucking Nazi! Never thought it could happen but whump there it is!

Anonymous said...

Nazi?
Similar arguments were used all the time by your friend Simon remember Geez?
After all, you and him are equal.

geez said...

Never met the guy.

Not my friend.

From what I've read, I don't think he's a nice guy. Indeed, it sure seems to me that he's done some very evil things.

Seems, too, his ethnocentric ideas are reflected in the shit I see being tossed around here by a bunch of Nazis.

Rather shameful behavior methinks especially when such folks claim to be Polish, and attempt to claim a monopoly on it.

But, yea, Mol and I are equal in the eyes of God. And we will be judged by Him just as you will be.

beakerkin said...

Beatroot

In this case you reveal your ignorance. In the United States over 90% percent of the asylum cases are rejected. This is a well known fact in legal circles and amongst my peers
who adjudicate such claims. In reality officers really do want to approve these cases as denials is a time consuming matter.

You should ask Jams about the situation in the UK.

Lost in all the back and forth is that many forget immigration is not a right. Moreover, immigrants have duties to their host country.

jannowak57 said...

geez said: “Jesus, a Polish fucking Nazi” + “folks claim to be Polish”

Now aren’t you the shining example of the cult of political correctness, you don’t like my views therefore I am a Nazis. That’s logical in your mind because you lack the education and the imagination to free yourself from what in your mind is a comfortable orthodoxy. It would be distressing to think for yourself.

You questioned how Polish I was and I responded accurately and obviously you were deeply troubled by that. Well after all this is only a sort of Polish blog anyway, and actual Poles aren’t really here in significant numbers.

geez said: “Mol and I are equal in the eyes of God”

I couldn’t help notice that you seem to be religious, a catholic no doubt. So let see who’s more fucked up. You’re the one who goes to church on Sunday another act of pathetic conformity. Seeking to get some spiritual anaesthetic for the pains of daily life, with the churches 10% guideline you could pay for a modest drug habit and avoid the aggravation of the Sunday morning time waste.

This Sunday when you’re in church think about this, you’re on your knees, your mouth is open and at the elevation of a zipper. Standing in front of you is a homosexual child rapist trying to put something on your tongue.

geez said...

An anti-Catholic fuckless Nazi who I am now sure is not the the least bit Polish. And now the vast majority of Poles can clearly see you for the cyberflop you are. Just read the above comments by "Jan Nowak" who goes so far as to use a real patriot's psuedonym.

Anonymous said...

Why those people who defended Simon Mol in this blog so much in the begining of 2007 are so quiet now?

I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE DAY OF HIS CONVICTION.
I WILL BE IN THE COURT ROOM JUST TO SEE HIS FACE AND INSULT HIM.

Anonymous said...

Even now Simon Mol is a parasite-living at the expense of the Polish people.

He should be forced to give back all the money he stole from this country.

It 's a shame they still feed this guy in jail.
Let the antifascist of the year starve to death!

beakerkin said...

This is another example of the far left branding all those who disagree
Nazis. The comments about the Catholic Church are dead wrong. The pedophile scandals were inexcusable, but we should also not forget the good things done by the Church as well.

This whole theme is mildly amusing because actual Commies (Ren) welcome actual Neonazis John Brown/LWB on their sites. The catch
is that the bigotry must be couched
in the appropriate manner.

The racial angle obscures the real issues here.

1 Are the refugee laws way too lax?
2 Should a country knowingly admit
people with dangerous sexually transmitted diseases.
3 What should be the penalty for transmiting AIDS?

Before the usually mindless suspects start to lecture us about compassion their highly praised Cuban health care systems places AIDS patients into a lite version of a gulag.

Poles are more than capable of solving their own matters.

Anonymous said...

The vicious and criminal nature of the so called anti racist activists is now widely known.

Anonymous said...

I've heard that «Mr Mol» is not having an easy time in jail... LOL LOL

luridtraversal said...

What a complete collection of stupidity on all sides. This is truly amazing. The anonymous comments all sound like a bunch of backwater country-bumpkins who have no prospects in life, but a lot of hate, and finally found their catalysts for their racism and bigotry. Now before anyone accuses me of (god forbid) defending this asshole, let it be clear that I think he should be locked up for life. Having said that, he should be locked up for life upon being convicted in a court of law. I'm assuming most if not all the anonymous comments are from Poles, and let me tell you all that you perpetuate every stereotype about your country that I've both read and seen throughout my unfortunate 3 years here. You're all plagues upon the stain of humanity. I have nothing but contempt for each and every one of you. Anonymous 1:56 said: "I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE DAY OF HIS CONVICTION. I WILL BE IN THE COURT ROOM JUST TO SEE HIS FACE AND INSULT HIM." This just shows the idiocy of the commenters on this blog. Hey Anonymous, are you actually stupid enough to think that they're going to have an "open court session" just for morons like you to be there and shout and jeer and well, be your idiot selves? Every anonymous commenter here deserves nothing but contempt. You just prove the left-wing's point time and time again. Beakerkin sounds like the John Goodman character in the Big Lebowski, tying everything anyone says to Vietnam, only Mr. BeaKKKin ties it in randomly to the US and or the evils of the left-wingers. The only person who is actually making some sense in this whole travesty of dialogue is Beat, Geez, and myself of course. Please all you anonymous characters, go pray, turn on Fox news, chat on your Blood & Honour chat-rooms, and stay out of mainstream society. You truly give society a bad name. You're all worthless, bigoted, racist, and have no sense of compassion, mercy or anything that could redeem you in the eyes of mankind. I can not wait for the day one of your relatives catches HIV or another STD. Who are you gonna blame then? Simon Mol? Where will you receive any comfort. I hope from no one. All of you can fuck off and die.

beakerkin said...

Here we go again with more idiocy from the far left. Actual Nazis are welcomed by Commies read Renegade Eye's comment section.

How does reporting a simple fact that
90% of the asylum petitions in the USA are found to be fraudulent involve racism? The above stated ignorance presumes there is a racial component to a system that has numerous checks and balances. The process is far to easy and the American people in my country need to fix it.

The racial angle is unfortunate because the issue is asylum fraud, not race. Nobody other than Ren, wants to knowingly send people to countries where they will be tortured. The facts remain that the system failed to catch a fraudulent case.

The other problem is endless saftey
nets. Giving a person a perpetual welfare check and a pat on the head
is not humane, it is the equivalent of turning humans into adult house pets.

Sorry but those on the sane left (sometimes including Beatroot) need to learn about learned dependency.
Those on the class genocide kick, need mindless drones dependent on their largesse. Commies don't have largesse, they merely steal it under the term of nationalization and give the peasants a few crumbs while hoarding the best for themselves.

luridtraversal said...

Actually I'm not calling you a racist per se, although based on the way you write, I wouldn't be surprised. As for you saying: "The racial angle is unfortunate because the issue is asylum fraud, not race. Nobody other than Ren, wants to knowingly send people to countries where they will be tortured. The facts remain that the system failed to catch a fraudulent case." I would like to say "WTF". This is not about asylum or fraud. This is about a potential monster who has allegedly done a horrific thing. And this is about the idiocy, and bigotry coming from the far-right. This has nothing whatsoever to do with communism or your perceived "liberal indoctrination" in the U.S. Universities. You truly are Walter Sobchak my friend. And also, being left-wing does not make me communist. Nor socialist for that matter. I just happen to believe in human rights, and courts of law. What's your excuse. You say you're a Rudy Republican, does that mean you support water-boarding as well?

Anonymous said...

Luridtraversal, if you've really spent - as you say - and "unfortunate three years" in Poland, let me be the first commenter on this thread to invite you to decamp for San Francisco immediately. You will likely find people more to your liking there, and you can embrace the spread of HIV there like the religion that it really is. Don't let the screendoor hit you in the ass on your way out of Poland, kolega.

wladziu sobchak said...

Hey Lurid Travel:

You got something against three thousand years of beautiful tradition, from Moses to Sandy Koufax?

Nihilists! Fuck me. I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

Anonymous said...

What has nazism has to do with a false refugee who deliberately infected people with AIDS while preaching his antiracist bullshit.

beatroot said...

I'm assuming most if not all the anonymous comments are from Poles, and let me tell you all that you perpetuate every stereotype about your country that I've both read and seen throughout my unfortunate 3 years here.

Actually, Lurid, very few of these comments are coming from Poland at all. They are freelance cockroaches that come out whenever they see the words ‘Simon Mol’. It is the same one or two idiots that were posting the last time this subject came up.

I hesitated for a couple of days before writing this post because I knew that intelligent debate would be impossible as soon as these creeps turned up. It’s like putting on the light – and there they are on the kitchen sink.

I can only conclude that the fact that they don’t get much further than very childish insults etc is because they simply have not the brain to do anymore. They are a curse on the blogs and forums, but there isn’t much we can do about them.

The best is ignore them. They get bored after a while…

jannowak57 said...

geez said: “An anti-Catholic fuckless Nazi “

Correct me if I’m wrong I just don’t see the love. It’s my understanding your religion requires you to turn the other cheek and forgive those who you feel have trespassed against you.

Here is a chance for you to demonstrate your Catholic values or lack of as the case may be.

God forgives, I don’t.

beatroot said...

And I am partic pissed off with you, Jan. The freelance cockroaches (I like this phrase) have no brain, so in a way they can be excused their nonsense. But you? No such excuse.

michael farris said...

beat,

when will you learn? if you're going to do a mol post, then make sure you have several posts to push it down the page once the nameless mol-groupies show up.

and jannowak47, reading anybody bragging about a pure bloodline is just plain creepy (bloodlines are for show animals, not people).

geez said...

Although I realize Fyodor D-sky didn't exactly love Poles, I think he was onto something when he recognized "Love in action is a harsh and dreadful thing compared with love in dreams."

Maybe you just know know where to look for or how to find the love in me, Jan. Not that I think for a second that you want to.

Ugly, ugly stripe you've been dishing out here, Jan.

Condemn the sin, forgive the sinner. Of course the sinner has to recognize his sin, be sorrowful, seek forgiveness, do penance, strive for redemption and all those incidentals.

And I think I've admitted hereabouts I'm not a very good Christian.

Then again, I don't think I need to go to someone who spews Nazi drivel to be lectured to about what it takes to be a good Christian.

I mean I can get to feeling guilty about goofing on a dead, bloated heretical nun. But somehow I don't think I'll lose any sleep tonight knowing you incapable of forgiveness.

Actually, that does make me feel pretty bad, though. Poverty of spirit and all that.

Anonymous said...


Actually, Lurid, very few of these comments are coming from Poland at all. They are freelance cockroaches that come out whenever they see the words ‘Simon Mol’. It is the same one or two idiots that were posting the last time this subject came up.


I had never heard of Mr. Mol until yesterday, and of course have never posted anything about him until this thread. On the other hand, Beetroot, after reading your archives you have apparently been defending this scum for the better part of two years.

jan nowak defense committee said...

Michael Farris, what is so creepy about Jan Nowak writing:

"a parasitic fringe that makes no contribution to the nation"

"pure bloodline uncontaminated by the foreign pestilence that features so prominently in Polish history"

"This Sunday when you’re in church think about this, you’re on your knees, your mouth is open and at the elevation of a zipper. Standing in front of you is a homosexual child rapist trying to put something on your tongue."


"we have a win-win situation here a foreign parasite eliminated 12 members of a Polish parasitic group in turn causing his own demise…does it get better?"

"These people take comfort in their idle and irrelevant existence; cutting those lives short will not negatively impact anything. Mol could consider this part of his defence."

Sounds like a totally sensible guy to us.

Anonymous said...

This owner of this blog has been defending Simon Mol since the begining.
And because he lost he starts insulting.
But the rest of the scum who alsodefended Simon Mol so much is very quiet now.
Why?

beakerkin said...

Here we go with yet more ignorance from the usual suspects. Ren openly calls himself a follower of the war criminal Trotsky? Does that qualify him as a commie? Do commies have a lengthy historical record of hiding their identity.

This case is 100% about the abuse of a system for political ends. Unlike you, I read the petitions from Communist legal front groups at work.The petitions are identical and are clearly fraudulent. Are you going to tell me that you know what
I see at work better than I do. Go ask an immigration lawyer what the denial rate is on asylum claims.

I do find it comedic that two expatriates should lecture Poles about their own internal matters, just typical far left arrogance.

Waterboarding of communists would be enjoyable, but is still illegal under the US Constitution. Try reading the sections of law that deal with unlawful combatants. Actual communists should be under 24/7 governmental scrutiny based upon the legal principle of probable cause. Should they violate
any of the laws of treason or sedition they should be punished to the maximum extent of the law.

Grzegorz said...

beakerkin,

i know this might be a hard concept to understand, but just bear with me for a second -- so, there are people who are capitalists. then there are people who are communists. in your world, are all people either capitalists or communists?

for example, i've lived in the soviet bloc under communism, under european social democracy, and in the capitalistc states. each of these systems have their problems. in the end, i like a market economy because it promotes competition and prevents price distortions to some extent, but believe the market requires some regulatory and redistributive policies in order to ensure a functioning society exists. am i a communist or a capitalist? or am i both, with each split person accusing the other of treason?

it seems to be a tendency among some republicans to forget that the cold war ended, or at least to employ the same silly dichotomies (good/evil, free/communist) to explain the world as a struggle between two polar extremes. putin and bush really have a lot in common, fraudulently winning elections and all -- you'd think they'd be better friends...

--
grzegorz
www.miaskiewicz.com

beatroot said...

Beetroot, after reading your archives you have apparently been defending this scum for the better part of two years.

Where have I been defending this 'scum'? I have, many times,defended POlish law, which states that someone is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. But then, maybe you would not understand that concept. It's called civilization. It's good. You should try it sometime.

luridtraversal said...

Wladziu Sobchak: I would like to say "Shomor Fucking Shabbos!!!!! :)

beakerkin said...

Gregorz

That is a relevant question. Most Republicans do believe in regulatory
agencies. Republicans tend to believe
in streamlining the rules that govern
the regulatory agencies. All power must be checked including that of business.

That being said the USA and Western Europe have a severe problem with Communists. People like Michael Moore are not liberals in any definition. We have allowed the Commies to spin a fable about the evils of McCarthyism. Lost in the myth are the crimes and deception of communists.

Sane people are against Nazism and racial power kooks. I have been 100% clear that I do not support Catholic bashing. We have witnessed
witless far left types smear those
who disagree with them as Nazis and KKK types. Communism is on a par with Nazism and the KKK.

We have the morally obtuse Beatroot
who veers off into fantasy. He lives in a fantasy world where Hugo
Chavez reminds him of Peron and brand X Communism has no connection to the historical record. My family
is quite familiar with the crimes
of Trotsky.

Beatroot is not a Communist, but he does tend to wax into mindless Euro arrogance. He presents Polish matters he disagrees with as being like America. The Poles I have met in NYC and elsewhere are a capable people and can form their own opinions on local matters without
arrogant, condescending expatriates
lecturing them. Let Poland be what its people wish it to be without the high minded lectures.

Anonymous said...

Beatroot is similar to Simon Mol-a social parasite but even more arrogant.
Poor asshole!

beatroot said...

Fatty Moore a communist? Don;t be silly, Beak. A communist is a member of the communist party. That's what it means.

Beak, maybe it's you who is the 'Sicko'...not a bad film, by the way. I am no fan of Moore but that's his best one yet (except for the rose tinted specs about the British National Health Service).

geez said...

Beakerkin wrote: "We have witnessed witless far left types smear those who disagree with them as Nazis and KKK types."

So now we clearly see that Beakerkin would be a member of the Jan Nowak Defense Committee (see post above) absent the anti-Catholicism. All the crap about enlightened Republicanism is just that, bogus.

Actually, my personal favorite JanNowaknism was not included in that post, namely:

"Real vetting involves sturdy lampposts, strong tree limbs and lots of rope."

Well, at least compared to Beakerskin, JanNowak57 is honest and forthright.

polishpress said...

i think the action was kick racism AND HOMOPHOBIA out of football;)

Anonymous said...

How about something called "Kick AIDS Out of Poland"? Pity it's a few years too late for at least 12 women.......

beatroot said...

So I get it. There are two camps emerging here among the freelancers and rogues…there is the ‘Mol is bad and the women are parasitic slags..’ tendency, or faction, grouplet: and then there is the ‘Mol is bad but let’s feel sorry for the 12 women..’ caucus.

So which is gonna be guys - are they slags or angels?

Discuss. …

opamp said...

That being said the USA and Western Europe have a severe problem with Communists. People like Michael Moore are not liberals in any definition.

bearkerkin,

I have a feeling that you have never seen a communist. In fact, you have absolutely no idea what the communism actually is. You represent typical American level of knowledge about communism, which can be summed as: communism is everything which goes against the current doctrine of GOP.

Since you call Michael Moore a communist, please refer me to his statements where he is in favor of:

- abolishing private property, in particular private business ownership;

- farm collectivization;

- revolution as an acceptable mean for reaching these goals.

There is no doubt that Michael Moore is a socialist, however calling him a communist is way over the top.

Harry said...

Anonymous said...
THIS SORT OF SCUM CAN BE SEEN AROUND WARSAW CENTRAL STATION Sometimes.
ONE OF THESE THUGS COMMENTS HERE UNDER THE NAME «Harry».


Hey Mr I'm-so-brave-I'll-even-tell-you-my-name, do me a favour: next time you see me at the central station when you're by yourself, please act like you do when you're with ten of your pack-rats (i.e. try and start a fight with me). Kicking the hell out of racist Poles is particularly enjoyable (although it would take an awefully long time to do them all). Your normally offers to pay me money to fuck you in the ass are not enjoyable. Anyway, talking of fucking people in the ass, I need to call your mother.

beatroot said...

Harry...

jannowak57 said...

geez said “nazis”

I certainly am not a Nazis if you had the slightest ambition to educate yourself in the various political ideologies you would find my views are not in conformance with that ideology. But you reached for the liberal leftist’s weapon of choice to enforce your version of “political correctness” because faced with a conflict of viewpoints you found yourself intellectually un-armed.

I went after you on the religious angle because that aspect of your convictions are as phoney and unfounded as your liberal leftist ideology. You people talk about values from one side of your month and on the other demand censorship, you want open debate but use the weapon of slander and smear at the drop of a hat.

You talk of the virtue of religion but in practice use it as an instrument of mass murder, your Catholic church effectively sabotaged Aids prevention in Africa, your birth control policies trap countless millions of people in a cycle of poverty and ignorance. Thus you and your church are not in conformance to Christian principles.

And you dare presume a moral high ground.

The defeat of communism represented an end to a malignant cancer attempting to destroy western civilization. Your liberal leftist ideology continues with the deception in a different form, a mere lesion this time, yet requiring action on the part of right thinking people in the form of vigilance and challenge, in order to prevent the misguided from causing harm.

To stay on topic, your mentality facilitated Mol.

beatroot said...

And Opamp is right - calling Moore a commie is actualy insulting to Poles, who have a little experience of 'communism'.

beatroot said...

To stay on topic, your mentality facilitated Mol….

But maybe you mean ‘politically?.......


…requiring action on the part of right thinking people…

And what kind of action would that be, Jan?

Anonymous said...

Beetroot says: There are two camps emerging here among the freelancers and rogues…there is the ‘Mol is bad and the women are parasitic slags..’ tendency, or faction, grouplet: and then there is the ‘Mol is bad but let’s feel sorry for the 12 women..’ caucus.

You left off the third caucus, the "Polish society is a benighted swamp of rascism and by the way Mol is definitely innocent until proven guilty and even then he's a poor victim of Polish racism and soccer hooligans."

beatroot said...

No, you misunderstand my point. There is a split between the people like you. On my side we will condemn his behaviour, but we are not going to generalize about whole groups of individuals...nor are we going to say the victims deserved it - which your side seems undersided about. I winder why?

Ours is a little more subtle position than yours, but hey - most positions are.

geez said...

nowak57 wrote:

And you dare presume a moral high ground.

Well, it's hard not to even for an admitedly old demented fart like me when confronted with tripe like:

"a parasitic fringe that makes no contribution to the nation"

"pure bloodline uncontaminated by the foreign pestilence that features so prominently in Polish history"

"This Sunday when you’re in church think about this, you’re on your knees, your mouth is open and at the elevation of a zipper. Standing in front of you is a homosexual child rapist trying to put something on your tongue."


"we have a win-win situation here a foreign parasite eliminated 12 members of a Polish parasitic group in turn causing his own demise…does it get better?"

"These people take comfort in their idle and irrelevant existence; cutting those lives short will not negatively impact anything. Mol could consider this part of his defence."

Or, perhaps informing the answer to BR's question about right action above:

"Real vetting involves sturdy lampposts, strong tree limbs and lots of rope."

Also, has anybody else besides me noticed an echo of some cyberentity here in the comments made by the Mol Patrol (emphasis on the later syllable)???

BTW, luridtravel, my friend Wladziu Sobchak asked me to ask you if there are any good bowling alleys in Warsaw. If not, maybe that's why you are so blue. Completely understandable. May the Tao of Dudeism be with you in overcoming such a terrible predicament:

http://www.dudeism.com/

Anonymous said...

«Mr Harry black» is sooo polite LOL

metkabytraczka said...

Harry, 5:38 PM, that was a good one! congrats! :-)))
metka by traczka

jannowak57 said...

Beatroot said: “To stay on topic, your mentality facilitated Mol….

But maybe you mean ‘politically?.......”

What I meant here was that the political ideology of the liberal leftists is such that adherence to it’s orthodoxy negates common sense and independent though, therefore fostering a mentality that was fundamentally incapable of dealing with Mol. We should ask ourselves had he been a Caucasian would this same subculture have applied a different standard of scrutiny. The fear of raising any inconvenient issue and risking public humiliation through the mechanism of the automatic label of racist was the overriding concern. Also the fear of having then been branded a heretic no longer worthy of belonging to the group played a part.

So yes I meant mentality.


Beatroot said: “…requiring action on the part of right thinking people…

And what kind of action would that be, Jan?”

As the sentence carries on to say “in the form of vigilance and challenge, in order to prevent the misguided from causing harm.”

Which should be understood as not allowing leftist propaganda to go unanswered as it is usually and easily defeated by reason and facts.

beakerkin said...

Beatroot

In your fantasy world nobody is a Communist. People that call themselves Trotskyites are somehow not Communists according to Beatroot.
Beatroot clings to a long discredited fairy tale about commies being honest
about who they are.

Michael Moore is a Communist and his record is quite clear. The Beatroot has his head in the sand.

Do notice that it is expatriates who arrogantly lecture the Polish people about their internal affairs. I do not seek to arrogantly lecture Poles.

wladziu sobchak said...

Reason and Facts According to jannowak57:

"a parasitic fringe that makes no contribution to the nation"

"pure bloodline uncontaminated by the foreign pestilence that features so prominently in Polish history"

"This Sunday when you’re in church think about this, you’re on your knees, your mouth is open and at the elevation of a zipper. Standing in front of you is a homosexual child rapist trying to put something on your tongue."


"we have a win-win situation here a foreign parasite eliminated 12 members of a Polish parasitic group in turn causing his own demise…does it get better?"

"These people take comfort in their idle and irrelevant existence; cutting those lives short will not negatively impact anything. Mol could consider this part of his defence."

"Real vetting involves sturdy lampposts, strong tree limbs and lots of rope."

Anonymous said...

Not a good poet and his poetry seduced a nation? Can't you make up your mind?

luridtraversal said...

Hey Geez. There are a couple of bowling alleys in Warsaw, but they're bloody expensive. And I don't really hate Poland as much as I sometimes say, I just got fucked by their immigration this week. That and the stupidity of the comments pushed me over the edge a bit. I've had too many arguments with Poles here over racism and homophobia and whatnot, and now there's even a nice piece of graffiti near my parents-in-law's place which says "Polska dla Polakow" which I'm sure you don't need a translation of. It's more sad than anything. I remember back when I was teaching English and I worked with a Nigerian dude, and whenever we were on the tram/metro/busses I was always amazed at the stares and abuse that no one even attempted to hide. It's just sad. It doesn't do much to improve my already bitter view on humanity. Nice website by the way!!! The Dude is wise...

geez said...

lurid travel,

Complain to the owner of the building and whatever authorities are in charge of graffiti. Even if nothing gets done, at least you can say you made the effort.

I once made a written complaint about some anti-semitic grafitti on a university building when I was visiting Poland a few years back and much to my surprise it was painted over within a couple days after my complaint.

Hey, and folks like jannowak57 are quite the minority in Poland even if it might not seem so at times. And my guess is still that he is not now a resident of Poland.

beatroot said...

Not a good poet and his poetry seduced a nation? Can't you make up your mind?

All that glitters...

jannowak57 said...

Hi geez……… you silly drama queen!

I see you have now resorted to repeating my various comments, may I assume that I am being flattered by your repetition of my comments………..perhaps I am the focus of your fixation with a personality cult. You know Jesus Christ, Lenin….......Jannowak57?

I also see you have tried to attribute views to me, which you know are not mine……sleazy.

Do you recruit altar boys for your Church?

geez said: “are quite the minority in Poland even if it might not seem so at times.”

This is a stupid comment if you survey the bulk of the people; your views are in the minority. There is nothing to indicate that Polish society has shifted its views.

luridtravel said: “I just got fucked by their immigration this week.”

Perhaps they recognized a piece of shit and didn’t want you in Poland. Whatever racism Poles my display they pale in comparison to you Americans. Clean up your act before you complain about us. The recent forest of nooses in the US must be an indication of you tolerance and lets not forget the recent spade of burning churches (black congregations). When you’ve got this sorted out come back and talk to us about racism.

Anonymous said...

Glad to know that Mol the «antiracist champion» is now reagarded by polish people the way he really is: an impostor, liar and CRIMINAL.Not to mention a parasite.

Shame on those who supported him.

luridtraversal said...

jannowak57 said: "Perhaps they recognized a piece of shit and didn’t want you in Poland."

Thanks for your concern and kind words sweetheart, but it's nothing so dramatic. Just a bureaucratic technicality. Wonderful, tolerant people like you aren't free of me just yet. This "piece of shit" is going to stay in POland for a little while yet. I'll probably end up teaching English to one of your fucktard (but pure-blooded)family members here in Wild Warszawa. I'm just thankful for Beatroot and that mostly the Poles I've met and befriended aren't bigoted as yourself. So until then Fuhrer Jannowak, kisses from me and my POlish wife. And don't worry about my immigration problems. I'll still be here pissing off people like you for quite some time. Big kiss sweetheart.

nemeczek said...

100 responses so far… It is a direct proof that Mol's poetry did seduce the Polish nation. Personally, the following poem does it for me:

Of Life & Death
Life, Death, Life.
Light, Darkness, Light, Darkness;
Light, Life…
Nothing Can Stop Nature.
Not even Nature Itself.
Simon Mol

A truly existential puzzle... One cannot help but be seduced.

jannowak57 said...

hi lurid

Hey gringo trailer trash, suffer confusion on fathers day?

Do you know the name of the prostitute that brought you into this world or the pimp that raped her?

luridtraversal said...

The prostitute who brought me into the world might very well have been your mother. Gringo trailer trash? How poetic. You could almost rival Simon Mol with your magical play on words. The "confusion on father's day" line was great too. Did you come up with that one yourself, or do you have a team of monkeys working for you? Thanks for putting a smile on my face after a long day of work!!! Kisses sweetheart!!!

beatroot said...

Can I suggest that this thread has deteriated...a little?

But let's lift the tone with another of Mol's poems. This one is typical as it is called

Xmas Thoughts

To be a poet is to inherit a curse.
Coming to terms with this is a great, stimulating challenge;
in the course words are captured and feelings made prisoners
... and thus art is born'.


Are you seduced?

luridtraversal said...

Beatroot said: "Can I suggest that this thread has deteriated...a little?"

You're right...a little!!! And I'm almost seduced by the Xmas Thoughts, but not quite as much as by the "gringo trailer trash"!!! Now it's just funny. Oh well, I'm done with this thread. Thank you Beatroot for giving me a little faith in humanity and POland. It is refreshing to know there are a few voices of reason left. Even when I lose my own reason. Good luck and keep the faith in the process of law and courts!!! And to Jannowak57: Merry Christmas sweetheart. Thanks for the fun!!!

jannowak57 said...

Hi Geez!

Well I may have been a bit hasty in my assault on Catholicism. It’s been a long time since I was a Catholic so I decided to refresh my knowledge of the church. I found a documentary clip that followed a journey of exploration in the workings of the Catholic church.

Take a glance at this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VABSoHYQr6k

jannowak57 said...

Luridtravel

Merry Christmas and Best Wishes for the New Year!

Thank you for the entertainment looking forward to sparing with you in the future.

heat_seeker said...

This discussion has deteriorated to the point where it has nothing to do with the original topic – Simon Mol. Be it as it may, here is my not-so-humble opinion: (1) Women who engaged in sex with Simon do need to take personal responsibility for their actions. It’s unfortunate that the consequences are as dire as they are. (2) Polish culture is infused with racism and blacks are generally viewed as inferior. Here is a little sample of that: A few years ago I was assigned a case which originated with a traffic stop for speeding and crossing a solid line and ended up with an assault on a police officer and resisting arrest. The defendant turned out to be a polish immigrant (female) who was visibly relieved to find out that I spoke Polish and proceeded to rave and rant about the incidents leading to her arrest. It all boiled down to 2 very basic facts: (a) a CHP cop who stopped her was black, and (b) when he couldn’t communicate with her and saw that her first name on the driver’s license was “Jolanta” he proceeded to ask her if she spoke Spanish (“Yolanda” is a common Spanish name.) “Jolanta” was very clear in explaining to me that she thought it was quite unacceptable that “jakis czarnuch” had balls to first stop her and then to add insult to injury assumed that she might be Hispanic. She also assumed that somehow I was supposed to share her sentiment in that regard. To make long story short, the case did not turn in her favor. (3) There is a segment in Polish society (as it is in all other countries, including the US) which will go out of its way to show how racially unbiased they are. That kind of overcompensation, IMHO is just another form of racism. I think that might be what jannowak57 is reacting to.
BTW: I find it somewhat ridiculous to see immigrants from Africa readily jump on the antidiscrimination bandwagon. Notwithstanding my previous comments, most discrimination they are facing is no different from discrimination other immigrant (including Poles) face in foreign lands. Hence, Simon Mol seems to be an opportunistic fraud and a jerk. Based on apparently false claims of political prosecution, shouldn’t he be deported back to Africa?

Harry said...

anonymous said...
is definitely innocent until proven guilty

You dumb shit. Everybody is innocent until proven guilty! That's how the law works.

Just like you were innocent of being a fucktard until you proved that you are one.

nemeczek said...

Deliberately infecting people with a deadly disease does not get any less criminal just because some compatriots of the victims are (allegedly) contemptible towards a race the perpetrator represents. In fact, any attempt to argue that would be a case of reverse racism. And deportation before the trial is premature, as the perpetrator needs to answer for his alleged crimes first. Leaving Polish milk and honey behind would not be punishment enough.

Anonymous said...

(Black) Harry is so polite...LOL

Did you visit brotha Simon today nigger?

Anonymous said...

«you dumb shit!» ??????????

Who is this Harry?

opamp said...

But let's lift the tone with another of Mol's poems. [...] Are you seduced?

Nope. Scandinavian death metal lyrics are Nobel prize material compared to this stuff.

geez said...

Beakertwin O'Nowak wrote:

I see you have now resorted to repeating my various comments, may I assume that I am being flattered by your repetition of my comments………..perhaps I am the focus of your fixation with a personality cult. You know Jesus Christ, Lenin…...


<>< <>< <><

Sorry, no, don't feel flattered. Unless you realize and take pride in the cult you lead being the Mol Patrol (emphasis on second syllable).

Yea and that video is funny but you take it as the complete and total truth. That's not so funny.

beakerkin said...

Geez

Your next coherent thought will be your first coherent thought.

Lurid

Thank you for staying out of the United States. I encourage you to kindly go to the consulate and renounce your citizenship.

Essentially Janowak is correct about your ignorant remarks about Poland. You base your opinions on the utterances of a few clods and that is wrong.

There are racist, homophobes and anti-Semites in every culture. To decide Poles are racist on the whole is stupid. The fact that one may ecounter someone telling a gay joke in VT does not infer all of VT
is homophobic.

The problem is that even the egomanaical Beatroot has not addressed the real issues.

1 Are fraudulent asylum claims a problem? Is the problem limited to Poland? What group has worked 24/7
to create this mess?

2 Do Poles have a right to exclude
people with Aids in the interest of public safety.

beatroot said...

Mol Patrol (emphasis on second syllable).

Yeah. Here is Jan's chance to distance himself from the dumb freelance cockroaches who have turned up for their anual Mol-fest.

Do you feel OK being in such company, Jan Novak 67?

beatroot said...

Beakthing
The problem is that even the egomanaical Beatroot has not addressed the real issues.

Would you like to substanciate that remark? Ego what?

jannowak57 said...

Beatroot said “Yeah. Here is Jan's chance to distance himself from the dumb freelance”

As of this instance you have 117 comments some of which no doubt you deeply disagree with but I don’t see how I can make a blanket pronouncement of thumbs up or thumbs down without you citing specific comments. Cite some specific comments and I’ll respond.

Here are just some of the rather obvious ones, which I will happily wish to vigorously distance myself from such as:

12:53PM
2:42PM
8:32PM
12:36PM
2:17AM

geez said...

Wanna distance yourself from these, too?

"a parasitic fringe that makes no contribution to the nation"

"pure bloodline uncontaminated by the foreign pestilence that features so prominently in Polish history"

"This Sunday when you’re in church think about this, you’re on your knees, your mouth is open and at the elevation of a zipper. Standing in front of you is a homosexual child rapist trying to put something on your tongue."


"we have a win-win situation here a foreign parasite eliminated 12 members of a Polish parasitic group in turn causing his own demise…does it get better?"

"These people take comfort in their idle and irrelevant existence; cutting those lives short will not negatively impact anything. Mol could consider this part of his defence."

"Real vetting involves sturdy lampposts, strong tree limbs and lots of rope."

geez said...

Seems to me the Mol Patrol is the spawn of a certain mentality.

geez said...

Oh yeah Freakertweak, do you want to distance yourself from the comments made by your bizarro beakertwin jannowak57 above?

At least you distanced yourself from his anti-Catholicism.

C'mon show your independence instead of brown nosing!

Anonymous said...

All his victims are young and educated. He always approached the women by asking for help with translating the articles he wrote or with taking care of some official matter. The women he infected claim that he acted with premeditation –

each time they wanted to use protection, he accused them of racism.


(Excerpt) Read more at polskieradio.pl ...

Anonymous said...

Some Wikipedia members are trying to delete his article. It is yet another attempt to blackout the terrible crimes committed by this monster.

Anonymous said...

Simon Mol deserves the cruelest punishment and I rerally hope he will die in pain rather sooner then later.

Anonymous said...

It seems that this black has infected a large number of extremely
foolish young Polish women with AIDS. It even appears he did it on purpose to get back at the white man.

jannowak57 said...

geez said: “Wanna distance yourself from these, too?”

No!

beakerkin said...

Geez

Why should I distance myself from comments I did not make? I do not know these people. They do not comment on my blog.

You do seem to have a double standard
with racial stupidity and actual Communist anti-semites. One can look at Ren's sick site and see commentsthat are straight out of Stormfront, Der Sturmer or the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. This is in addition to advocacy of class genocide, apologism for despotic regimes, historical and economic illiteracy,rationalization
of criminals including terrorists
and rabid anti Americanism.

In fairness Beatroot does not lie. He merely feigns ignorance when he is wrong on history or placed in a tight spot.

geez said...

You do not know me Beakerdin and I do not comment on your blog, but you still make ridiculous pronouncements about my politics and level of intelligence.

But you can't even assess the direct quotes above separate from whoever made them?

What a cop-out! Seems you are incapable of independent thought and are nothing more than a Limburgerite dittohead.

BTW, I have no truck with Renegade Eye on a personal level one way or the other tho I much like Astor Piazolla (and Twelve Monkeys) while thinking Trotskyism once murderous and now merely quaint.

Anonymous said...

Harry, "innocent until proven guilty" works in courtrooms. This is a blog.

The guilt of this fellow is rather obvious; and as I am neither prosecutor nor judge, I need not pretend that he is an innocent victim of the racist Polish system. He's just another scamming criminal who should never have been allowed to stay in Poland in the first place.

Are you the type of person who claims that Osama Bin Laden is only "alleged" to have masterminded the attacks on 9/11, also "acknowledging" that there are "allegaions" that the Mossad blew up the World Trade Center? Or are you the kind who says that since he was never charged in a court of law, it is not proved that Josef Stalin ordered the murder of the Polish officer corps at Katyn in 1940?

After all, Bin Laden and Stalin were just the victims of the racist/sexist/homophobic Western culture, and they are definitely, absolutely, positively innocent until proven guilty. Just like poor Simon Mol, the refugee who has been oppressed by Polish skinheads, anonymous bloggers, and other anti-social types who need immediate re-education. Right?

Anonymous said...

Why care about «Mr Harry» says his level of language reveals the kind of person he is.

Anonymous said...

Many white people will have little sympathy for intelligent young white
women who have been led down the garden path by lefty multicultural
black worship so as to have unprotected sex with an African, even
despite the frequently reported high rates of Aids infections in
Africa.

These are their words...talk about lefty fantasists out of touch with
reality.
***Report mostly through the words of the victims: Beata (22), Sylwia
(25), Marta (23), Monika (24).

They make no secret of how their relation started. Article is titled I
was attracted by this force within him (my translation sucks for the
lack of time). I remain with the feeling that they are guilty of
stupidity and being naive, but of nothing else. Throw a stone. I
translated the introductions below.

Beata (22): "He was my first partner. I think I was somehow addicted
to him. Why? I don't know. Maybe I was fascinated by him. Maybe
because he knew so much about Africa, and I was interested in this
continent? Especially the religion. These beliefs they have, cult. He
was to tell me about this and that's how we met. Through
acquintances."

Sylwia (25): "I was finishing my studies, didn't have any job and
the voluntary work by Migrator Theater seemed if not great, then at
least some kind of option. Thus I came forward and prepared
translations. To gain any kind of experience. I remember that initially
Simon seemed a guy that no girl would fall for. Neither handsome, nor
seducer, just plain. (...) I saw in him some kind of hero, I don't
know..? A fighter? He seemed stronger, better than me. (...) How did it
come to this that I, who since being 8 years old knew that one has to
protect himself, could go to bed with him and not think about a condom?
I can't come to terms with that to this very day. I was stupid, we
were all very stupid."

Marta (23) describes how she was accidentally approached by Mol while
sitting with friends in the street of Warsaw's old town. "I saw him
walk by. There was some magic to it. Our eyes met and I felt something
between us. There was a spark. (...) I am deeply religious person, some
say I have no link with reality. At that time maybe I really didn't
have it. I saw everything idealistic way, with no distance. Before
Simon I had no other man."

Monika (24): "I was interested in Migrator Theater, and consequently,
personality of Simon. We met. Went for a beer. Couple of days later he
called me and we met at his place. I was undergoing a deep crisis then.
My relation with a boyfriend, whom I was dating for a year, had fallen
apart. Simon hit at that moment."

Neither of the interviewees mentions any further chains of infection.

Subtitle: "The only thing I can do now, is to save the next ones.
Report about victims of Simon Mol".***

I wonder whether they are so fascinated in Africa and African men now?
I wonder whether they are left wing activists now?

But more should be done to warn stupid white women about the peril of
having sexual relations with blacks, especially blacks from Africa. The
problem is that blacks are the Ace of trumps in the politically correct
pack of cards, and a woman's life is nothing compared to the
possibility that we might hurt the feelings of blacks.

Anonymous said...

«Just like poor Simon Mol, the refugee who has been oppressed by Polish skinheads, anonymous bloggers, and other anti-social types who need immediate re-education. Right?»

I COULDN´T AGREE MORE!!!!!!!!

beatroot said...

But more should be done to warn stupid white women about the peril of
having sexual relations with blacks, especially blacks from Africa.


That was an interesting comment until this last bit. What is the peril of having sex with 'blacks'?

Thinking it is a problem having sex with blacks is a deeply racist and pathetic thing to think.

opamp said...

That was an interesting comment until this last bit. What is the peril of having sex with 'blacks'?

Per se? Nothing.

Except that most black people come from African countries, which have the highest AIDS prevalence rates.

Thinking it is a problem having sex with blacks is a deeply racist and pathetic thing to think.

Ignoring the simple fact that our hero was statiscally 69 times more likely to be HIV positive than a random Polish person (prevalence rate in Cameroon 6.9% vs. Poland's 0.1%), on the basis of political ideology, is a deeply stupid and dangerous way of thinking.

It's akin to saying that there is no peril in visiting a brothel in Swaziland (prevalence rate 38.8%). Heck, that sport beats Russian Rulette which has risk level of mere 1/6, i.e. 16%.

opamp said...

The Simon Mol article has been deleted from English Wikipedia on Aug 23, 2007. You can see the discussion and vote.

I love this bit:

Wikipedia is not the place to gather people around and say,pardon me, "Look what this nigger did!" If this had been an article on a famous writer, with references pointing to that, that just happened to have been arrested for a heinous crime, I might give it a second look. But, not a Goddamn single person supporting this article has come forward with any evidence to suggest that he is known outside of this crime. [...] We are not here, on Wikipedia, to make 'examples' of people. This is news, local news and should be treated as such. The global community hasn't stood up to take notice and neither should Wikipedia

"The man whose poetry seduced a nation" got deleted off Wikipedia for not being notable enough. Priceless.

And Orwellian.

geez said...

So now this lowlife jerk's poetry really did seduce a nation?

Or just a few (but too many) ignorant and taken advantage of young girls?

Sounds, Op, like you are now arguing Polish folks are pretty damn dumb.

geez said...

Interesting discussion on that Wikipedia url, though.

It sure looks like most of the racist wikipedia posters were British.

Go figure.

geez said...

And it seems like you think, Op, that individuality counts for nothing and we are each simply a function of group statistics.

That's mighty myopic methinks.

beakerkin said...

Geez

As I have said before. The person in question is not a friend of mine. This person does not post on my site.

Beatroot does post on Renegade Eye's communist blog. I have no connection to Janowiak. If he were a regular commenter or a friend of mine this would be another story.

Feel free to ask me about my own opinions.

The comments about your low level of intelligence are quite evident from your comments.

So when does his royal majesty, Beatenroot pronounce his all knowing opinion on if admitting people with AIDS is a public saftey
issue.

Renegade Eye said...
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Renegade Eye said...

Beatroot: do you know about bug parties?


Beakerkin: Feel free to ask me about my own opinions.

1) Was the Argentine junta anti-Semitic?

2) Do Palestinian's have the right to a state?

3) Is the National Organization of Women a communist group?

4) Did you threaten to spam my blog? posting junk hundreds of times over?

beatroot said...

Opamp - you seem to be unable to grasp that 'black people' and 'someone from a high risk African country' is a rather different type of person. There is nothing about a 'black person' that means that they are more or less likely to have HIV. Any suggestion to the contrary is primitive racism.

To think we are in the 21st century and trogs are still going around with this kind of shit in between their ears (where there brains should be).

Sad. Very.

geez said...

Freakerdin: Feel free to ask me about my own opinions.

I gave you a chance. You punted. As usual.

Tweakerfin: Beatroot does post on Renegade Eye's communist blog. I have no connection to Janowiak. If he were a regular commenter or a friend of mine this would be another story.

So you shouldn't be commenting on anyone who doesn't have the stomach to go to your blog and/or anybody you don't know, including me and Simon Mol.

geez said...

BR: Even if some individual is from a high risk African country, there are many, many other considerations a reasonable adult should take before fucking him or her.

Simon Mol should not be taken as an example of what it means to be Black or African. Plain and simple.

geez said...

Bug parties. Whoa. Jeez.

beakerkin said...

The communist anti semite attempts
to cover his stench. Ren does cater to actual neo nazis,

1 No. This is not my opinion but the views of Argentine Jews who emigrated
after their house of worship was blown up by Ren's allies in Hezbollah. Jews in Argentina have nothing to do with Israel. This is an example of the genocidal intent of the terrorists he rationalizes.

Commies frequently do this when a commie is guilty of a crime. The Rosenbergs were guilty of espionage
and deserved to die. Commies claimed it was a conspiracy, anti semitism and knowingly lied about it for decades.

Commies such as Zero Mostel spun a fable about the black list being an attempt to silence Jews. The issue was never Judaism as my family encountered 0 problems . While commies were spreading these fables, their counterparts were holding show trials based upon imaginary zionist conspiracies. Alleged Jewish communists even endorsed the Nazi-Soviet alliance that divided Poland. They were quite vocal pacifists at the time
until their beloved Soviet Union got attacked. One should also remember that the commies massacred plenty of people before the Nazis killed many more.

2 No. Palestinians are not an ethnicity. Arabs allready posses an abundance of colonized real estate.
The claim of Palestinian ethnicity is a Commie ploy dating back to the 1960's. Any comparison of this alleged ethnicity to Basque's, Kurds, your average Indian or African tribe, the Karen, Assyrians
and the people of Brooklyn NY shows that the "Palestinian" claim is on a par with the people Brooklyn.

Advocacy of a Palestinian State does not infer one is anti-semitic.
Nobody has called Jams or Beatroot anti-semitic.

Then again neither Jams nor Beatroot allow idiocy such as commenters who write askeNAZI, claims that a Mossad plot was behind 9-11, Nocon (evil Jewish Republican cabals) started 9-11 to aid Israel, Jewish Americans are traitors with no loyalty to America. At the very minimum the blog host should have made his own views clear as Beatroot did on this post with the anti- Catholic and racist comments. Then again Beatroot is largely coherent with a few stupid quirks.

3 Yes. The leaders of that group are communist. Look at the bios yourself.

4 Yes

An anti-semitic ally of Ren's has spammed my blog as well as those in my community. Ren was told by around a dozen commenters to talk to this person. He was given examples by Warren of what we see.
He also thinks that threatening bloggers children is funny.

Brown has continued his spam years later. Ren allows him to post under the name LWB.

Brown's behavior annoyed someone who did place a few spam like comments on Ren's blog. This had nothing to do with me.

Ren is so stupid he believed that I created a blog calling myself a pedophile. He was convinced that it wasn't me when his buddy placed gay
porno pictures of cop killer Mummia
on this site.

geez said...

BR: Please stop Beaker's spam.

Please. It's idiocy run amuck.

Anonymous said...

geez, YOUR posts are idiocy run amok.

opamp said...

BR,

What you are unable to grasp is a difference correlation and causation. Correlation does not imply causation, although you obviously do not know that.

Take a look at these stats. In South Africa HIV prevalence among black people is 13.3%; among whites it's 0.6%. Are you still going to claim that there is no statistically significant relationship?

Now, that does not imply that there is a direct link between skin color and AIDS prevalence. Much simpler explanation is that the societal customs of some people make the spread of AIDS easier. Now the fact that these people also happen to be black is just a coincidence.

What is really sad here is your stubborn belief that statistically significant correlations do not exist, just because they are politically incorrect.

This is exactly what our hero capitalized on. He was -- regardless of skin color -- coming from a high risk country. He was also a high risk individual if you look at his biography (prison sentence). Yet, he has managed to convince everyone that he is not in a high risk group!

How did he do that? By claiming that since the high risk group overlaps with the black people group (as seen above), the concept of high risk group is an artifical one, introduced to mask racial prejudice. Ergo, alleging his membership in a high-risk group became equivalent with spreading racial prejudice. Thus effectively killing the subject each time it was raised.

Our hero is, indeed, a smart man.

geez said...

he has managed to convince everyone that he is not in a high risk group!

He convinced every Pole or just a few naive girls?

Again, Op, you should stop arguing that Poles are universally stupid.

Mol convinced the few naive girls that he was a nice and maybe even somehow exotic guy even more so than anything statistical in nature. That is, unless he wowed the few naive girls that his dick was statistically bigger and in everyway more satisfying than 99% of Polish males.

beatroot said...

Opampo – you cannot determine The chances of someone having a virus like HIV by The colour of their skin. The reason why HIV took off among the heterosexual population in many countries in Africa is nothing to do with why HIV first emerged in the gay population in cities in the US. And the gays in San Fran have nothing to do with the spread of HIV via needles in Russia.

See what I am getting at?

Beakytwat

Keep on the topic or I am going to take you off.

beakerkin said...

Beatenrootless and semi coherent

Ask Ren.I responded to a query and have been on topic.

Why don't you tell your simpleton
ally Geez the truth. You have submitted posts to Ren's site with the full knowledge he is a communist.

Speaking of being on topic waaay back at the top you were asked something entirely on topic and ducked. We will try again.

Should Poland admit immigrants with
Aids, drug resistant TB or Athletes
foot. There isn't a correct answer to this. Admitting AIDS patients is
a calculated risk and this case demonstrates the real danger.

The United States admits AIDS patients with a medical waiver. Many people would like to see this ended in the interest of public safety.

Public safety and immigration is a serious topic. Does a society have the right to expect immigrants will
obey laws? The question is larger than Poland or Mol.

What would be your reaction if Mol had been convicted of serial drunk driving, repeated acts of petty theft or drug dealing.

The issue is still balancing public safety versus the right of refuge.
In Mol's case there was never a danger so he never should have been
admitted.

The racial angle diverts attention
from the real issues public safety
and refugee fraud.

beatroot said...

The racial angle diverts attention
from the real issues public safety
and refugee fraud.


Yeah. You got there in the end.

Renegade Eye said...

Beatroot: Simon already has his death sentence? It seems Magic Johnson has eternal life.

Beakerkin: I think Beatroot has the right to contribute to any blog he pleases. His using Spiked Online for references, which is more controversial than my blog. They are paid to be anti-enviromentalist. My blog is defined as anti-Stalinist. My other writers include people with third camp and anarchist views. The views are not only mine, it's in fact a coalition blog. You are fully aware of that, you are just redbaiting Beatroot.

The reason you use lies and personal attacks, is because if you open about your politics, without diversion, you'd be seen as a bigger fool, than you are already. I never knew what you gain by looking so foolish? I've honestly never seen you convince one person, of any view you hold? Even your rightist friends back away from your personal attacks.

Harry said...

geez said...
he wowed the few naive girls that his dick was statistically bigger and in everyway more satisfying than 99% of Polish males.

That's the bit which really pisses of the Polish racists!

beatroot said...

Sorry...but comments must be on topic, to some degree, at least. Anymore of this then I am going to start deleting comments. Nobody cares about blogs talking about bloggers. STICK TO THE POINT.

beakerkin said...

Beatroot

You are dodging the real issue here.The issue is larger than Mol or even Poland. Every country that has immigration deals with balancing public safety vs humanitarianism and refugee fraud.

What are your views on immigration and public safety? Are you going to
continue to dodge this question? The question does not have a right or wrong answer. Where does one draw the line on humanitarianism and public safety?

In Mol's case it is irrelevant as his asylum claim was fraudulent.

Renegade Eye said...

The immigration issues are neither here nor there. In the Ayaan Hirsi Ali case, she told tall tales to get into Holland, and she is the conservative flavor of the month.

A discussion of immigration is a complete diversion. The premise is that because his paperwork is fraudulent, therefore he's an AIDS infested sociopath.

This discussion is not really about Poland or Cameroon. It is about someone, who used his sexuality as a weapon of murder, and how society should deal with it.

roman said...

Ren,

The discussion is, in fact, about Poland and immigration. Twelve Polish citizens (so far - due to the stigma attached to HIV, we may never know the extent of damage) were victimized by a sociopath who entered the country fraudulently. The immigration laws and the bureaucrats who admitted him failed in their responsibility to safeguard their country's citizens from harm. Mol's case should be a catalyst for change. A medical screening before entering the country is not a bad idea.

jannowak57 said...

Renegade Eye said: “This discussion is not really about Poland or Cameroon. It is about someone, who used his sexuality as a weapon of murder, and how society should deal with it.”

Unless Mol has confided in you I don’t know how you can say this? Would it not be just a possible that the motivation was… I just want to get laid, I don’t give a shit and it feels better without the condom. We will never know for sure as now he will say what ever is in support of his defence rather than the truth.

Beatroot

It cannot be helped but to associate the risk of Aids with recent African arrivals versus say Blacks originating from the Caribbean, the US or the UK. The numbers are clear and significant; the prevalence rate is around 600 % greater then those who originate outside of Africa.

In some sense this is the same debate as the racial profiling of people from the middle east at airports, say what you will it just wasn’t a bunch of Irish guys who took out the World Trade Centre.

For Poland this could become a timely debate on the subject of HIV/Aids, soon large numbers of people may be brought in from Russia, Belarus and the Ukraine to augment the work force, all of those areas are having trouble controlling the spread of this decease.

beatroot said...

For Poland this could become a timely debate on the subject of HIV/Aids....

This is indeed correct - and not just HIV but STDs in geberal...and it is significant that that has not been touched on at all in the above thread.

But the debate will not be a very good one if we stay fixated by 'outsiders' brigning it in. The problem of STDs in Poland is and will be a Polish problem.

Education about HUV and more is needed and it is not being given by the proper authorities.

Let's stop worrying about 'blacks' and start looking at Poles. Period.

beakerkin said...

Beatroot

The focus should be on public safety.
Most countries require medical screening of immigrants. People with dangerous communicable diseases should be excluded in the interest of public safety regardless of race. Would you be as cavalier with TB as you are with HIV?

The distraction with the education angle diverts from a serious cause.
The problem is in Poland and teaching kiddies to place condoms on cucumbers is not going make matters better. The education is often very thinly disguised propaganda.

What are your views on immigration and public safety? Does a nation have the right to screen out disease carriers and criminals? You
might argue that admitting AIDS patients is a calculated risk and such incedents like Mol are rare.
However, I would respectfully disagree in that public safety is always first on my agenda.

geez said...

"we have a win-win situation here a foreign parasite eliminated 12 members of a Polish parasitic group in turn causing his own demise…does it get better?"

"These people take comfort in their idle and irrelevant existence; cutting those lives short will not negatively impact anything. Mol could consider this part of his defence."

"It cannot be helped but to associate the risk of Aids with recent African arrivals versus say Blacks originating from the Caribbean, the US or the UK."

Why is it, 57, I don't think you'd be any happier with black folks coming into Poland from the US rather than from Africa? Especially if your opinion is simply informed by statistics (not even to consider the racism that is so obvious to many of us) rather than looking at the individuals involved?

beatroot said...

Indeed. Even the scientist who published the stats recently on different IQ scores between say, Africans and Asians etc, would not claim that you can tell someone's intelligence from the country or continent of origin. And so with behaviour and sexual history. To do so would be to demonstrate either a low IQ or a racial prejudice.

jannowak57 said...

Hi geez you fucking parrot.

I have a feeling that you keep parroting my words because you secretly agree with these views but do not have the balls to attribute them to yourselves.

I welcome all new comers to Poland of whatever race and skin colour, so long as they contribute to society and assimilate into the culture. We don’t need a repeat of recent history.

For example the German community in pre-war Poland ghettoized itself and turned on the Polish people (25% of them joined nazis controlled organizations before the war started).

I can’t help noticing that you have a propensity for parroting people, is this a catholic thing, i.e. conditioned to mindless repeat of doctrine. So with Christmas approaching are you selling the idea of virgin birth? I experienced this phenomenon while in high school, she was pregnant and her father had a shotgun.

There’s a new product on the market your perish may consider looking into, it’s a lockable butt plug with an electronic alarm. It could be cheaper to issue these to the alter boys versus the cost of settling the lawsuits.

jannowak57 said...

Hi geez

When you put your money on the collection plate here is what you are paying off.

· In December 2006 the Archdiocese of Los Angeles (Roger Cardinal Mahony) agreed to a payout of $60 million to settle 45 of the over 500 pending cases concerning abuse by priests. In July 2007 the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles agreed to pay a $660 million settlement to hundreds of people who claimed to have been abused by clergy.

· In September of 2003 the Archdiocese of Boston agreed to pay out $85 million to 552 victims.

· In 1997 the Diocese of Dallas negotiated a $31 million settlement with victims.

· In June of 2003 the Archdiocese of Louisville made a $25.7 million settlement involving 240 victims of sexual abuse.

· On January 3, 2005 Bishop Tod Brown of the Diocese of Orange apologized to 87 alleged victims of sexual abuse and announced a settlement of $100 million following two years of mediation.

· In December of 2006 the Diocese of Phoenix agreed to pay $100,000 to William Cesolini who claimed he was sexually assaulted as a teenager by a priest.

· In Canada the Christian Brothers have paid out approximately $35 million (Canadian) in compensation.

What a proud record for church head by an anti-aircraft gunner of the German Army.

geez said...

I'd say too bad he missed but that would be sinful.

So, are you suggesting that all your bitterness is derived from a teenage shotgun marriage?

Gee the way you've been talking, I would have thought you would have been in better control of your urges than Simon Mol.

BTW, do you think that guy who was for a while lead singer for Trebunie-Tutki assiilated into Polish culture? Was he a productive member of Polish society?

beatroot said...
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beatroot said...

Yeah, I wanna hear more about the shotgun wedding. Was the dad super catholic?

Anonymous said...

Interesting that Harry ( also black) accuses everyone he doesn´t agree with of being RACIST.
JUST LIKE SIMON MOL.
Just a coincidence?

jannowak57 said...

Hi geez

According to the Catholic Church……………………………..Specifically, Catholic parents have "a duty to pull their children from sex-education programs" in schools that "promote condoms to avoid pregnancy or AIDS"

Carla del Ponte, chief prosecutor for war crimes in the former Yugoslavia, has said she believes Gen Ante Gotovina is hiding in a monastery in Croatia. Ms del Ponte's spokeswoman told the BBC News website that the Vatican had refused to help in the search for him, despite being in a position to do so.

A former Roman Catholic chaplain was sentenced to life imprisonment yesterday for collaborating in torture, kidnapping and murder during Argentina's military rule. Christian von Wernich, 69, was convicted of involvement in seven murders, 42 abductions and 31 cases of torture. One of the judges described his offences during the country's 1976-1983 dictatorship as crimes against humanity. During the trial, former prisoners said Von Wernich had pressured torture victims into providing information during his visits to secret detention centres.

Catholic priest Athanase Seromba refused to appear Monday for the start of his war crimes trial at the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda. Seromba, who is accused of ordering a massacre of 2,000 people who sought refuge in his church during Rwanda's genocide, has pleaded not guilty to charges of charges of genocide, complicity in genocide, conspiracy to commit genocide and crimes against humanity. Seromba's refusal to appear was in protest over the tribunal's plans to transfer the trials of some suspects to Rwanda's national courts

So geez would you say there is a pattern of behaviour, I would expect at this point an educated person with some values should be looking at a new religion. Try the Buddhists or Protestants they haven’t been tagged with so much.

michael farris said...

"Even the scientist who published the stats recently on different IQ scores between say, Africans and Asians etc, would not claim that you can tell someone's intelligence from the country or continent of origin."

There's a difference between lip service and really believing something.
The only possible reason for collecting and collating IQ scores (a dubious measure at best) by group (relentlessly and aggressively for years and years and years) is to _use_ the results in formulating policy, if not this decade then sometime down the line. You have to work really hard at not paying attention to miss that.
At their most benign the 'scientists' that publish this kind of results are trying to harden the hearts of the gullible, telling them that squallor and poverty are the natural biological heritage of certain peoples. At worse ... well let's just say it gets worse.

geez said...

So 57, you're an atheist like Stalin. By your contorted logic, you should be looking for a religion, period.

For every bad example of a Catholic, I can provide you with a good example.

Maybe if you'd stop being obsessed with patterns and statistics, something you're not very good at btw, you'd be able to deal with people on an individual-to-individual basis.

beakerkin said...

Still no comment from Beatroot about medical screening of people with communicable diseases or criminal records. This is a clear example of the disconnect between the self described elitists in the salons and common sense.

Mol's viictims likely had the education Beatroot sees as the answer.Mol needs to be punished to the maximum intent of Polish law.

All imigrants need to be screened for disease, drug addiction and criminal records regardless of race. Asylum standards need to be so that farces like this do not repeat themselves.

beatroot said...

Interesting that Harry ( also black) accuses everyone he doesn´t agree with of being RACIST.
JUST LIKE SIMON MOL.
Just a coincidence?


Where did you get the idea that Harry was black? You have this idea because Harry told you he is black.

I met Harry many times and Harry appeared, to me, to be a white person from England.

Harry has been successfullytaking the piss out of you, and you are so stupid you fell for it.

Now if you have not got anything at least semi-intelligent to say then go back to the cave from whence you came.

beatroot said...

Beaktawt

Mol's viictims likely had the education Beatroot sees as the answer.Mol needs to be punished to the maximum intent of Polish law.

And how do you know that? Do you know anything about sex education in Polish schools? Do you know the women personally?

No. So why bother making an ass of yourself?

As for screening for HIV etc. What has that got to do with anything? They do screen arrivals into Poland. They screened Mol. If you saying that anyone with HIV should not be allowed the right of asylum, then say it: 'the sick are not welcome here'.

That's not an ethical policy which will ever get my support.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure the family and friends of the victims share your ethics and liberal bs.

beatroot said...

So are you saying sick people should never be given refuge?

beakerkin said...

Beatenrootless and senseless.

If you think condoms are safe I invite you to knowingly have sex with one of Mol's victims with a condom. Condoms are not 100% and only an imbecile would take chances with his mortality.

The ultimate goal of sound governance is to protect the people it governs. People with AIDS or other communicable diseases such as TB should not be admitted in the interest of public safety.

Contrary to the far left salons AIDS is a communicable disease and a danger to public safety as this case illustrates.

First off Mol's asylum case was fraudulent. He had zero business in Poland or anywhere else.

Second of all the safety of the Polish people trumps Mol's safety.
Did you anything about the serious risks caused by this admission.

Thirdly: This is not cancer or a condition that poses no danger to anyone else. Mol's condition was COMUNICABLE and he did transmit the disease knowingly.

I am glad you are so cavalier with the public safety of those you dwell amongst.I guess Poles who disagree with you on the matter of public safety are just racist bigots.

Mol's victims likely had the required education you see as the solution. Condoms and education are not the answer to a deadly disease.
They are not as effective as keeping known carriers out.

I am glad you are so dismissive about the education and intelligence of Mol's victims. Were they all mindless autonomotons who
mindlessly followed orders.

You need to respect the intelligence of the people you live amongst. You talk as if they are primitive children who need to be led by the hand. Sorry, but Poles can handle their own affairs with out arrogant expatriates hectoring them.

Anonymous said...

He's left families devastated,destroyed lives and the only thing you're concerned about is the negative impact this will have on bogus immigrants and refugees.What exactly are your ethics ffs.

Anonymous said...

The owner of this blog is as criminal as Simon Mol.

Just read his posts from the begining of 2007 defending the «antifascist of the year» and take your conclusions.

But who cares about this arrogant asshole.

beakerkin said...

Beatroot

I would understand your position if you at least acknowledged the risk to
public safety as a calculated risk. You seem to show zero concern for the people you live amongst.

Your compassion should start with the Polish people with whom you dwell.

Anonymous said...

ISTM that beakerdinism is a communicable disease.

Renegade Eye said...
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Renegade Eye said...

Simon Mol is a sociopath. The main weapon sociopathic personalities have, is charm and intelligence. That makes up for their lack of conscience.

Guys like him are as athletes, who switch urine samples in drug tests, with clean urine. Someone like him, will con the average immigration inspector.

The main characteristic of Simon Mol is that he lacks conscience. He is a monster. If he wasn't killing people in Poland, he'd be killing people in Cameroon.

The talk about screening immigrants for communicable diseases is racism. When they talk about Venezuelans or Cubans, they don't talk about disease. Mol is from Africa and is black, that is the basis for the screening talk.


4:43 AM

beatroot said...

The owner of this blog is as criminal as Simon Mol.

I know this is going to be hard for a troll to understand but can you point to somewhere where this blog has broken the law? If not then there is nothing 'criminal' in it.

Beak - unlike those who refer to the women involved as dumb slags who deserved what they got - and there have been those, see above, I have been consistently compasionate to them and all HIV sufferers.

But I repeat the question: sick people should not be elligable for refuge?

luridtraversal said...

Beakerkin said: "Thank you for staying out of the United States. I encourage you to kindly go to the consulate and renounce your citizenship."

Wow. What a typical response from someone like yourself. Why don't you go watch some Fox News or Bill O'Reilly, and keep a look out for "commies" instead of worrying about my citizenship status. Thanks for the advice though, but I think I'll keep my citizenship if you don't mind, especially as I now know how happy it makes you. Take care sweet-pea. Next time you want to try to insult me, maybe come up with something a little more original.

Happy Christmas Beatroot!!!
And Jannowak57: The Louis CK clip is truly priceless!!! He's priceless. If you've never heard of him check out Bill Hicks as well.

beakerkin said...

Beatroot

My main problem with your response was the utter disregard for public safety. Had you stated something along the lines of it is a calculated risk and such episodes are rare this is an acceptable response. Your response showed zero concern for the public safety of
the people you live amongst.

People with communicable diseases should not be eligible for refuge.
The role of sound governance is to protect the people. A government that allows people with communicable diseases has failed to protect its people.

Even if Mol's claims were true the potential danger he posed to the public outweighs his needs. However, 90% of these claims are fraudulent.

We would not be having this conversation with cancer patients who pose zero public safety risks.
There are acceptable ways of disagreeing. However, they start with recognizing the serious risks
caused by admission of people with communicable diseases.

You seem to be under the delusion that asylum or refuge is an obligation. These are an entirely discretionary status granted by the people of whatever country issues them. Public safety of the host country takes precedence over asylum claims.

Ren

You reveal your true red colors. You list people fleeing Cuba and Hugo's blunderland on the list of your pet peeves. It would seem that we do get many of these types. It would seem that you object to people fleeing the Marxist hell holes you advocate. Cubans do not need to file for asylum as they are covered under the Cuban refugee act
and NACARA. We know how uncomfortable Commies, like yourself, feel amongst Cubans who
can speak freely. Your answer proves exactly what is wrong with the system. You seek to exclude those who disagree with you on political grounds.

Your responses reveal your ignorance about the system. The medical examinations are conducted by certified doctors and such episodes are rare. Any doctor participating in such fraud would face real jail time and loss of license. We find amazing criminal histories with fingerprints as well. As we move onto biometrics fraud will be much more difficult.

In your warped view genuine refugees fleeing brutal Marxist tyranny should be excluded in favor
of those with dangerous communicable diseases. Shall we admit dangerous criminals or mentally disturbed Trotskyites next.

Lurid

Your response is a worn cliche. You do not have to look far to find commies, all you have to do is look
in the mirror.

Thank you for staying out of the USA. Please remain there and consider renouncing your citizenship. Our country does not
need your kind.

luridtraversal said...

Beakertwat said: "Lurid

Your response is a worn cliche. You do not have to look far to find commies, all you have to do is look
in the mirror.

Thank you for staying out of the USA. Please remain there and consider renouncing your citizenship. Our country does not
need your kind."

Yawn. Last time I checked, I'm not a member of the communist party, so you're off on that one. And as for the good ol' US of A not needing my kind? What kind is that exactly? Someone who differs in opinion than yourself? Someone who actually cares enough to criticize? Last time I checked that's my right as a citizen. I was born and bred in the US, and I'm not anti-USA nor communist. I have some deep problems with the US as of now, and I talk about it. But fascist/republicans like yourself are always so quick to spout out the "love it or leave it" mentality. That's great. Good for you. I'm a communist? That's a good fucking joke. All I am is a liberal who believes in human rights. Even rights for narrow-minded bigoted persons like yourself. I'm an American, but you're the stereotypical arrogant American. I constantly have to defend my country because of people like you. Merry Christmas though sweetheart and be sure to sleep tight knowing that I still have my citizenship and the right to disagree with your idiotic opinions. But give my love to Jumpin' Joe McCarthy. And next time I come back to visit my homeland (that is if I have your permission) I'll be voting the Republicans straight out of office!!!

nestor macjes said...

Psychodickwad:

"You seek to exclude those who disagree with you on political grounds."

"Our country does not
need your kind."

geez said...

C'mon Lurid and Nestor! Beakerkin was born incapable of harboring or doing evil. We in America can sleep well tonight after our Wigilia dinner knowing that Beakerkin is ever vigilant in his watch against obviously sleepless evildoers such as youse. As the old saying goes, "Badz czujny, Wrog nie spi!"

luridtraversal said...

Truer words were never spoken Geez. But in the ultimate words of Walter Sobczak..."fuck it Dude, let's bowl"!!! Have a Merry Christmas, and I hope you're not living in the Midwest right now with all the snow storms!!!

beakerkin said...

Lurid

Only mindless commie hacks call Republican's fascist and spin evil fables about "McCarthism". In your mindless fantasy world Communists were always honest about who they are.

The United States does have the right to bar those who advocate the violent overthrow of the USA. Communists, Anarchists and terrorist are banned from admission into the USA.

Those fleeing communist oppression are actual refugees.Funny, but it seems that wherever commies set up shop refugees soon follow.

Lurid

Does you feigned interest in human rights include those living under communist regimes in Cuba. Sorry but that bit is paper thin.

Thank you for remaining outside the USA. We have far too many mediocre left wing vampire educators in the USA.

luridtraversal said...

Beaktwat...

I truly would like to know where exactly I am a communist. Maybe I missed it this morning when I woke up, but I'm still curious.

And I feel terrible for those living in Cuba as well as Venezuela too. But listening to you, I am glad I'm away from the states for now. But I'll return, if anything to make your life even worse than it is now. But I'm still trying to figure out where I'm a "commie"...maybe you can point it out to me. I've never once mentioned economics here. I don't like Stalin, and I hate McCarthy. You'd do well over here in the PiS party my friend. But good luck in your sad life amigo.

beatroot said...

Bookyspooky
Perhaps, just for fun, you would like to give us your definition of what a 'communist actually is?

luridtraversal said...

He's amazing. He sounds like a cliched broken record. I even made the mistake going to his blog, hoping he was just a troll and taking the piss out of people, but alas, he actually believe the bile that he speaks. It's especially nice to hear how he speaks of vegans. Not that I'm a vegan or anything (that might equate communist in his eyes) but I do respect their choices. Nice entry about yourself as well Beatroot...

Either way, I'm done with this moron, I'll go practice my "commie takeover"

beatroot said...

Yeah, I saw it. Is the world really that boring that he has to post about me?

geez said...

C'mon BR, don't be so self-deprecating. Having BK write about you now is just as big as if you headlined the Ed Sullivan show 40 years ago sharing the stage with Topo Gigio.

beakerkin said...

Beatroot

You know the definition of fellow traveler very well. The type that waxes off about how wonderful the mess in Venezuela is.

You are also well aware that many communists conceal their identities except for those with very low IQ's.Unlike the souless Trotskyite, you will not go around praising Bill "30 bombings" Ayers or the Hitler- Stalin pact to divide Poland.

Lurid Kim Jong "Mentally" Ill needs you. North Korea aspires to mediocrity and needs your help.

Enlighten me simpleton, is a dullard that calls himself a Trotskyite qualify as a communist.
Why is the all knowing Beatroot so forgiving of a man who venerates a war criminal? Poles would seem to have a different opinion about Trotsky. While we are at it my grandfather fought for Poland against the Bolshevik invaders.

Tell us how brand X communism is divorced from the historical record. Are you going to be as forgiving with Roehm styled Nazis who claim there versions of Nazism had nothing to do with the Holocaust just like the Trotskyite
rope a dope bit you endorse.

Sorry but I draw the line at genocidal nut, racial power nuts, idiots who want to place Jim Crow type theological law on the entire planet and anarchist freaks. The people who wail about "McCarthyism"
and call Republicans fascist are in
reality commies.

I will resume being on topic.

Beatroot.

One can make a sane argument for the admission of people with HIV under humanitarian grounds. My main problem with your response is you dismiss public safety entirely. Mol's behavior illustrates the dangerous potential of the policy.
The problem with your response is you do not even acknowledge that there is a public safety risk.

Lurid

Spend ten weeks with a constantly late vegan you might be singing a different tune. Speaking of foul tunes sit in a car after a vegan has ingested a plate of tofu. Vegans should not inflict their lifestyle on non vegans.

mao ding-dong said...

Is the above an example of somebody suffering from . . .

Coprophagia ? ? ?

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