Monday, April 24, 2006

Bin Laden’s latest recording


Why are journalists making a big thing about his threat against civilians? (photo: when the bearded idiot used to make videos, too)

When covering the story all the major networks have led on the part of the cassette tape which threatens western citizens. The Los Angelis Times for instance:

“…he said members of the Western public shared responsibility for the actions of their governments because they "are renewing their allegiance to its rulers and master" — an apparent implication that civilians could be targeted.’

Two things: firstly, what is new in that? Al-Qaeda type lunacy has always targeted civilians. Look what they are doing in Iraq. Look what they did in New York on 9/11. Nothing new in that at all.

Secondly: the commentators are saying that this statement puts civilians more at risk. They imply that there is some connection between what Bin Laden says and atrocities that happen in the West against civilians.

But this is not so. Bin Laden in particular and al-Qaeda in general (whatever that is) had nothing do to do with the bombs in London, for instance. And Madrid?

Why do we constantly exaggerate the role of a man who lives in a cave, recording gibberish into a cassette recorder every now and then?

23 comments:

Romerican said...

Because the reportage and spin are designed to keep us on the fear trendmill.

jams o donnell said...

The press tends to focus on hardliners at the expense of other strands of Islam. Perhaps this is in part why someone like Abu Hamza became the face of Islam here in the UK rather than, say someone like Shirin Ebadi

Renegade Eye said...

We don't really know for sure if there is something called Al-Qaeda. Do they have a website?

beatroot said...

Welcome Jams!

Shirin Ebadi is a good example (she won Nobel Peace Prize?) of all the Muslims and secular people from the middle east who are fighting against the nutters too.

Abu Hamza (hook handed panto villain) who seems to scare people to death, is just another nutter who is not really that scary at all.

Most of these jihandists are not a threat to anyone in the west - though they are a real menace to those in Egypt, Iraq, ....

I agree with Renegade - al-Qaeda is a figment of the Wests imagination. They are not some crack group of troops ready to attack us. They don't have that kind of orgamization. It's more of a brand name.

But that hasn't stopped Blair, Bush from bringing in authoritarian laws which are the real threat to 'our way of life'.

Not some nutter in a cave.

jams o donnell said...

Looking for a massive organisation called Al Qaida would be a pointless waste of time as it doesn't exist in that form.

On the other hand Al Kaider does exist and and plies his trade as a furniture maker in Maine..... or at least he did soin 1999 according to the Boothbay Register!

beatroot said...

:-) Arrest that man and sling him in secret gulags in Poland!

jams o donnell said...

Can he share a cell with Al Nino who carried the can for his environmental namesake?

on that point, I'll get me coat!

beatroot said...

And umbrella and wellingtons...

sonia said...

Lovers love, hater hate, terrorists terrorize...

But those Al Qaeda terrorists don't seem to terrorize you guys...

As long as you are more scared of Dubya than of Osama, all's well and fine...

beatroot said...

Bush. Poor Bush. Hapless Bush. he's a worry becuase he is in a corner. Everything he tries goes wring. Already a lame duck, Iran is all he has got to look manly and is if he is doing something.

But all tbis talk about attacking Iran is just that: talk. He's shot his bolt.

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georgesdelatour said...

Bin Laden and Zawahiri were planning 9/11 during the Clinton White House. They'd already bombed the east African embassies, and had a previous shot at the WTC while Clinton was "not" having sex with "that" woman. They would have carried out 9/11 if Gore had become president.

Bin Laden is a massively important figure in the Muslim world. As Gilles Kepel - hardly a neocon - reports:

"I heard a famous nuqta or joke in Egypt: “A woman in a restaurant needs to go to the toilet. She goes to the men’s toilets, but the waiter says ‘Oh no, Madame, you cannot go there, you have to use the other one’, and she asks ‘Why? Are you telling me that bin Laden is hiding in those toilets?’ ‘Why no, he isn’t there’, and so she replies, ‘Well I can go then – because he’s the only man left in the Muslim world.’ There are different versions, more in tune with traditional mores, or more refined versions where she goes to the hamam on the men’s day. This is something for anthropologists of the nuqta in the future!"

Kepel doesn't say if there are any Shirin Ebadi jokes doing the rounds...

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beatroot said...

Bin Laden is a massively important figure in the Muslim world.

This article shows that most Muslims think that the guy is a complete fruit cake. Headline is Spanish Muslims issue fatwa on bin Laden

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/03/11/wspan11.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/03/11/ixworld.html

Redwine said...

We should unite and send the Tom Cruise of the Pakistani Caves a webcam. His last tape is not only hilarious: it is also delusional and very boring. 5 dollars here; a generous offer, as his last performance is worth less. But I have a good heart, and would like to help the news -and bloodthirsty public of the Western world. They seem to be lusting for their exotic terror-playboy. So, next action: a cam for Been Laden. Join me!

beatroot said...

Yeah, a Laden-cam! In the cave!

You are completly right about bloodthirsty public of the Western world...he seems to feed our wildest fantasies and fears.

Some think he is the most dangerous man alive (which is clearly a ridiculous thing to think) others (armchair anti-imperialists) seem to see him as a bit of a 'freedom fighter'(even though he is indirectly - very indirectly - to blame for killing thousands of Muslims).

He is none of those things. He's just a loser in his cavge with his cassette recorder and his delusions.

jams o donnell said...

So he does not become Has-been Laden, Red?

On a less flippant note both Hamas and the Sudanese Government seem to have put a lot of distance between themselves and his recent statement. Perhaps many in the Muslim world now see him as a liability rather than a hero

sonia said...

Osama is not the problem, merely a symptom. The root of the problem are totalitarian dictators like Saddam. Trying to uproot them will be a very costly and bloody enterprise, but it is the only way.

I know that democracy cannot be imposed by force (that's neo-cons costly blunder), but nothing forces us to tolerate totalitarian oppression. Instead of chasing after Wild Goose Osama, why not send one of those remote drones over Teheran for some surgical strikes against Ahmajiadan....

georgesdelatour said...

Bin Laden was behind the biggest attack on US territory since Pearl Harbor. People who lost loved ones in 9/11 want him apprehended, and you're poking fun at them. Would you think of Bin Laden as just "a man living in a cave talking gibberish" if you yourself had lost a loved one in the Twin Towers?

My sister's husband teaches in a school in Bradford, West Yorkshire. When the school tried to have a minute's silence for the victims of 9/11 the Muslim kids interrupted it to cheer for Bin Laden. In the next few days, graffiti appeared around the school and on school books showing planes crashing into Big Ben. Okay, some kids want to be thought "hard", and maybe cheering Bin Laden was just a pose to earn "respect". But there's one other thing. A a teacher he's learned that, if he says to a white kid, "I'm going to have to talk to your parents about your behaviour", the white kid will hand him a mobile phone, already ringing home. It's the kid's way of saying, "I don't give a f*** what my mum thinks, so go right ahead". But the Muslim kids are usually terrified of such a threat, because, if a Muslim father thinks his son is bringing dishonour onto the family by his behaviour, he will beat the s*** out of the kid. But when the Bin Laden incidents happened, the usual "I'm going to have to talk to your parents" threat didn't work. Why? Because the kids were simply echoing the attitudes of their parents.

I don't know if there was any link between Bin Laden and the 7/7 bombers - though, if I was head of MI5, I wouldn't rule it out categorically in advance. But I think they, and the Spanish train bombers, were directly inspired by the boldness and audacity of 9/11. It showed what was possible, if you were singleminded enough.

Michael Farris said...

"Bin Laden was behind the biggest attack on US territory since Pearl Harbor. People who lost loved ones in 9/11 want him apprehended"

It's too bad the current President of the United States is not one of those people.

beatroot said...

Now, now, Michael! Bush is not to blame for US foreign policy...he is just the bozo who takes (very bad) advice.

And Clinton would have reacted in the same panicky way that the Republicans did.

In fact, it was Clinton and Blair who maintained the sanctions that killed half a million Iraqi children...they were also the gruesome twosome that bombed Iraq regularly, bombed Serbian make-up ladies in television studios, bombed Sudan, Somalia ...etc....

George - "Bin Laden was behind the biggest attack on US territory since Pearl Harbor. People who lost loved ones in 9/11 want him apprehended"

Which is indeed true, of course. But Bin Laden had very little to do with that, at all. It's an action he appropriated, not initiated.

In general, we have overblown massivly the danger that he and al-Qaeda poses to us in the West. Apart from 9/11 - a one off spectacular - what else has there been? Nothing. In Europe 'al-Qaeda' has done nothing at all (Madrid is debatable).

But this won't stop our hapless, isolated leaders from trying to appear relevant, with a 'moral purpose' (that they don't have) by making new authoritarian laws that really are a danger to us.

Mr Anderson said...

C'mon people wake up Bin Laden is dead. Has been for ages.

Google is a wonderful tool try it out.

We're being taken for a ride. My advice is to watch the news if you have to but don't believe everything you see or hear. Surely our leaders wouldn't use propaganda against us, their own people. Lol.

Don't be afraid of those pesky foreigners killing us. You have more chance of being hit by a bus or being killed by police breaking into your home and shooting you.

I read a while back that there was prior knowledge about pearl harbour. Seemed quite convincing when you look at the big picture.

Anything is possible.

Sleep well.

Anonymous said...

That's a great story. Waiting for more. »