Thursday, November 30, 2006

Another PR disaster for LPR…


Maciej Giertych’s assistant joins in the fun at neo-nazi party.

dziennik.pl reports film evidence of a neo-nazi party (that’s having a good time ‘party’, but maybe not only) two years ago in Silesia, with lots of drinking, cries of ‘Sieg Heil’ and burning swastikas etc, attended by members of the All-Polish Youth (Młodzieży Wszechpolska), the Giertych-jungen of the League of Polish Families (LPR).

It gets worse. Spotted at the neo-nazi knees-up was a female assistant of Maciej Giertych, Euro MP and senior member of LPR.

Holding nazi type gatherings is illegal in Poland under article 256 of the penal code.

Leader of LPR, Roman Giertych (and former president of Młodzieży Wszechpolska), denies any knowledge of the matter and says that any perpetrator of improper behaviour must be punished – ‘and that includes All Polish Youth.”

In July this year, the editor of Zielony Sztandar printed an apology for accusations that All Polish Youth were fascist sloganizers, promoting violence and criminal activity. I bet he wishes he had to stuck to his guns.

Don’t forget to support All-Polish Youth’s jolly web site in English. It has comment boxes like a blog, so I am sure they will be glad to hear what you think.

More?
Right-wing Polish European Parliament lawmaker dismisses aide after neo-Nazi rally video, IHT, Nov 30

24 comments:

sonia said...

I like this description, 'a female assistant of Maciej Giertych, Euro MP and senior member of LPR'...

Was she wearing a Che Guevara t-shirt too ?

Anonymous said...

Beatroot said “Neo-nazi party”, isn’t that a bit harsh and perhaps a superficial judgement. This burning cross could have been a Buddhism symbol or góralski krzyż or for that matter a sacred symbol in Hinduism. This Sieg Heil stuff was likely a group of German tourists who when walking by responded to an uncontrolled genetic urge at the site of the symbol. Once again these misunderstood young people find themselves crucified by media.

Renegade Eye said...

I read the Wikipedia article, that you directed me to in the post.

Did the gay rights and women's groups demonstration use nonviolence when pelted? They should just be squashed.

Martin said...

Beatroot,

Thanks for the link to their site.

Comment added.

It's been reported that these scumbags are organising with the UK's like-minded scumbags in the UK.

jannovak57 said...

This group has about 3000 members and receives disproportionate media attention inside and outside of Poland. On the political scene it generates more attention per member than any other organization in Poland. They are however .007 % of the population which amounts to nothing when compared to the medical profession suggesting the around 5 % of the population are mentally ill in some form. In the big picture they are politically irrelevant. In a bizarre twist it’s interesting too see groups committed to xenophobic ideas work together with groups from the UK and Germany, isn’t the whole idea to hate each other? There will always be discontented fringe groups. The numbers are hard to find but it looks like the US and Russia lead the pack with the largest numbers of groups and membership. The US has around 800 plus groups and Russia has a 150 plus groups with 10,000 active members. In Europe Austria and Germany seem to lead the pack but the numbers are small. Although I couldn’t find good data on membership the proportion of political crazies to the general population in Poland is not alarming. Starving this group of media attention might be the best way of making them disappear.

sonia said...

US and Russia lead the pack

Actually, it's Iran, Palestine and ebanon that 'lead the pack' here. In Iran a Holocaust-denying neo-Nazi is A PRESIDENT. In Palestine, neo-Nazi Holocaust-denying Hamas has recently won an election. And in Lebanon, neo-Nazi Holocaust-denying Hezbollah rules one third of the country.

It seems like only the Poles don't have the right to hate Jews. Muslims who hate Jews become partners in peace negotations...

Top Cat said...

jannovak said..
The numbers are hard to find but it looks like the US and Russia lead the pack with the largest numbers of groups and membership

Every time Jan reads something bad about his country, he tries to pin it on the Americans. Sorry, Jan, we don't have that here.

sonia said...

Top Cat,

Truth hurts. But Jannovak is right, people from the land of Timothy McVeigh have no right to condemn others for extremism.

Btw, I mentioned this post on my blog here.

Top Cat said...

I wasn't condemning Jan Novak for extremism, I was saying that he gets defensive when he feels insulted and drags the Americans into it and insults us. Makes him feel better (superior), but also shows his insecurity.

The photo on BR's site is shocking. I don't recall seeing something like that out my window
lately.

beatroot said...

What the government is doing is considering banning All POlish Youth. Giertych might lose his Education Ministry. There is nothing he can do about it as LPR are toast in the polls. Giertych senior has sacked his lady assistant.

All in all, a good result! Though banning organizations is not a good move...

Jannovak57 said...

Top Cat said... “drags the Americans into it and insults us”

I love America and Americans, I’ve even let that Yalta business slide right by.

What insults, I can’t do anything about data and statistics the numbers are the numbers. The magnitude of the problem can’t be assessed without comparison to other societies. It’s not logical to expect that Poland is free of political extremists but equally not logical to declare there’s crisis when in fact there’s not. All societies have a political fringe but if the size, political influence and organizational capability are of no consequence, then you don’t have a problem. The All-Polish Youth hasn’t attracted much support and remains static at approximately 3,000 members not much to show for, after 17 years of recruiting.

European Neo-Nazis organizations are heavily reliant on US hate groups and this has developed something of an export industry. The production of Nazis regalia, publications and Website hosting is illegal in many areas of Europe so American groups provide items and services.

jannovak57 said...

Beatroot said: “though banning organizations is not a good move...”

To ban this group would be a mistake in light of Polish history, they’re dumb enough to self-destruct without anybodies help.

Poland is not a society in which you wish to create nationalist martyrs.

thirty third and third said...

What a bunch of pathetic insignificant young turds. I noticed one short essay in the web site attacking Jacek Kuron for purportedly devoting his entire life to introducing Trotskyism (the turd couldn't spell it, either) to Poland. A pity that such turds have the freedom to be the turds they are today because Jacek Kuron fought courageously risking his life time and time again against the communist regime. Hilarious, too, when I went to the website, the google ads that were running were for gay cruises.

geez said...

Looking out my US of A window today, I saw this:

http://www.splcenter.org/intel/hatewatch/

beatroot said...

33 and third: do I get the impression you think MW are a bunch of turds? I noticed the Kuron thing too. Their type always did hate him. Ex-commie reformist, secularist, friend of Jews...

And Jan is right - banning these guys will do their minority interest politics more good than harm.

Michael Farris said...

And the hits just keep on coming:

Wierzejski parties with skinheads

http://wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/wiadomosci/1,53600,3765713.html

why am I not surprised?

beatroot said...

As you say, not really surprising as he and all his other little mates, were skins anyway. He can put on a gay pair of glasses, but a thug is a thug. Period.

mullet said...

A thug is a thug....like scottish football, It has little todo with what they are proclaiming....and everything to do with being a dick period.

David said...

amen mullet

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Kevin said...

Top Cat said... “drags the Americans into it and insults us” I love America and Americans, I’ve even let that Yalta business slide right by. What insults, I can’t do anything about data and statistics the numbers are the numbers. The magnitude of the problem can’t be assessed without comparison to other societies. It’s not logical to expect that Poland is free of political extremists but equally not logical to declare there’s crisis when in fact there’s not. All societies have a political fringe but if the size, political influence and organizational capability are of no consequence, then you don’t have a problem. The All-Polish Youth hasn’t attracted much support and remains static at approximately 3,000 members not much to show for, after 17 years of recruiting. European Neo-Nazis organizations are heavily reliant on US hate groups and this has developed something of an export industry. The production of Nazis regalia, publications and Website hosting is illegal in many areas of Europe so American groups provide items and services.