tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post4637473678733488678..comments2024-03-20T10:19:56.838+01:00Comments on the beatroot: Prince Charles opens Jewish centre in Polandbeatroothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-11341625696865975012008-05-22T12:31:00.000+02:002008-05-22T12:31:00.000+02:00Thanks to the blog owner. What a blog! nice idea.Thanks to the blog owner. What a blog! nice idea.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-22380945617539817762008-05-06T17:49:00.000+02:002008-05-06T17:49:00.000+02:00Or did someone mistranslate "Centrum Spolecznosci ...Or did someone mistranslate "Centrum Spolecznosci Zydowskiej"?<BR/><BR/>"His Royal Highness was in Krakow today opening the new Jewish Cultural Centre."<BR/><BR/>Z-z-z-z-z.<BR/><BR/>Badz czujny, wrog nie spij!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-49866785365877108032008-05-06T15:11:00.000+02:002008-05-06T15:11:00.000+02:00BR: yawn. A cultural centre is NOT the same as a ...BR: yawn. A cultural centre is NOT the same as a community centre.<BR/><BR/>>>> Then let the folks at the new "Jewish Cultural Centre" in Krakow know that they are off the mark and should rename their Centre the "Jewish Community Centre".<BR/><BR/>Roman, then there's the matter of genuine vs. spurious culture as advanced by the late Edward Sapir...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-10376299748303452082008-05-06T12:34:00.000+02:002008-05-06T12:34:00.000+02:00'Elections aren't cheap.' And neither should they ...'Elections aren't cheap.' <BR/><BR/>And neither should they be. You cannot put a price on democracy. We can out a price on the royal family, however.<BR/><BR/>But that is not a reason to oppose the royal family. The only reason to oppose them is that they are not accountable or electable. Period.<BR/><BR/>Awwwffff with their heads!!!!!beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-45699732603713183942008-05-05T23:52:00.000+02:002008-05-05T23:52:00.000+02:00BR: firstly, the President of Germany (yes they do...BR: firstly, the President of Germany (yes they do have one) costs more than the British royal family (elections aren't cheap) if you consider the cost of the royal family as being the civil list.<BR/><BR/>Secondly, the royal family actually contribute money to the British state. The civil list payments are made in exchange for the Queen donating the income from her private property to the public purse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-71234811530645614282008-05-05T18:01:00.000+02:002008-05-05T18:01:00.000+02:00How did I get sucked into this quagmire of endless...How did I get sucked into this quagmire of endless refinement of a couple of word definitions?<BR/>Although, I admit, that at times this "drill down" trait that geez has, can be a plus. <BR/>Not this time, though.<BR/><BR/>Cheers!romanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15988548647887978919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-12912413814838685012008-05-05T17:10:00.000+02:002008-05-05T17:10:00.000+02:00yawn. A cultural centre is NOT the same as a commu...yawn. A cultural centre is NOT the same as a community centre.beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-54521037411518766072008-05-05T15:37:00.000+02:002008-05-05T15:37:00.000+02:00But drinking beer is just as much a culture as dri...But drinking beer is just as much a culture as drinking wine. Obviously, there are class distinctions within any cultural/community scenario. Are the high brow basefall fans part of the same cultural and/or community event attended by the guys and gals in the bleachers? Or are two different events happening because the game is experienced so differently by the different classes? Can community transcend classes? Can culture? So on and on and on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-21474738053209367972008-05-05T04:30:00.000+02:002008-05-05T04:30:00.000+02:00geez,The bleechers (beer drinkers who arrived via ...geez,<BR/><BR/>The bleechers (beer drinkers who arrived via subway)constitute the community center while the exec boxes ("cultured" wine drinkers who paid $30 to park their 7 Series Mercedes) pass for the cultural center. It's a stretch, I admit, but that's as close a comparison as possible.romanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15988548647887978919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-46219330341256092182008-05-02T19:56:00.000+02:002008-05-02T19:56:00.000+02:00Is Fenway a community center or a cultural center ...Is Fenway a community center or a cultural center or both or neither?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-54271263812528867842008-05-02T04:41:00.000+02:002008-05-02T04:41:00.000+02:00geez,After tonight's game against the Jays, I tota...geez,<BR/><BR/>After tonight's game against the Jays, I totally agree.<BR/><BR/>Best regards.romanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15988548647887978919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-2539050132552299262008-05-02T01:22:00.000+02:002008-05-02T01:22:00.000+02:00"Wicki"?BTW, the Red Sox suck worse than the Yanke..."Wicki"?<BR/><BR/>BTW, the Red Sox suck worse than the Yankees.<BR/><BR/>Cheers!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-28799002998688183202008-05-02T00:27:00.000+02:002008-05-02T00:27:00.000+02:00Geez,Give it a rest, PLEASE?Community Center, Cult...Geez,<BR/><BR/>Give it a rest, PLEASE?<BR/>Community Center, Cultural Center<BR/>right click on the above two, not at the same time, copy and open in Wicki and look it up.romanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15988548647887978919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-67398500521022368352008-04-30T17:37:00.000+02:002008-04-30T17:37:00.000+02:00How can you say with such certainty that Krakow ha...How can you say with such certainty that Krakow had no place to serve the Jewish community? <BR/><BR/>Have you ever visited any of the other centers (with whatever adjective you want in front of it)? Which don't serve the local Jewish community? Which don't serve the wider, worldwide Jewish community?<BR/><BR/>And how does each serve which Jewish community (local or worldwide) -- in what ways? <BR/><BR/>I think it's ludicrous to try to split community and culture as if culture is something apart from community.<BR/><BR/>Dydziant dza ever hear of _To Hell with Culture_ by Sir Herbert Read?<BR/><BR/>Again, the matter I'm most curious about is the extent to which any of these centers serve the local Jewish community in what ways if any.<BR/><BR/>Just coz they are there doesn't mean that local Jews have much interest in them or use them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-54054808878236233122008-04-30T17:09:00.000+02:002008-04-30T17:09:00.000+02:00a cultural and community centre are different thin...a cultural and community centre are different things and have a different purpose. A cultural centre is their to disceminate culture...a community centre is there to serve the community. Krakow had no place to serve the Jewish community until now.beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-47840050212446504182008-04-30T15:21:00.000+02:002008-04-30T15:21:00.000+02:00And last I heard, Kazimierz was being yuppified/ge...And last I heard, Kazimierz was being yuppified/gentrified. <BR/><BR/>Where does that leave the 600 or so Krakow Jews today? <BR/><BR/>I don't know if that's a reliable count -- just found it quickly on the net)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-48145142512754547802008-04-30T15:17:00.000+02:002008-04-30T15:17:00.000+02:00Yes, sorta, but look at your orignial post. You w...Yes, sorta, but look at your orignial post. You wrote about a "cultural center," not a "community center."<BR/><BR/>And what's the big difference?<BR/><BR/>A community center can offer cultural fare.<BR/><BR/>And a cultural center can have a computer hook-ups for indigenous community people to use.<BR/><BR/>The really curious state of affairs here is that there are multiple centers -- whatever the adjective in front of them -- and as far as I can see, they are not run by Krakow Jews and I wonder how much Krakow Jews see them as part of their community or something largely foreign to them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-87652377907173311762008-04-30T15:08:00.000+02:002008-04-30T15:08:00.000+02:00Geez - can you see the difference between a CULTUR...Geez - can you see the difference between a CULTURAL centre and a COMMUNITY centre?beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-44524775251638839972008-04-30T14:31:00.000+02:002008-04-30T14:31:00.000+02:00Wondering, too, if the folks who run the Jewish Cu...Wondering, too, if the folks who run the Jewish Cultural Festival there in K-kow in June are Jewish:<BR/><BR/>http://www.jewishfestival.pl/index.php?pl=strony&nrstr=1&lang=e<BR/><BR/>The point I'm getting at here is how is the actual Jewish community in Krakow involved in and benefiting from all these centers and events?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-48569275277032774302008-04-30T14:25:00.000+02:002008-04-30T14:25:00.000+02:00Here's the url for the newer Jewish Cultural Cente...Here's the url for the newer Jewish Cultural Center I visited:<BR/><BR/>http://www.krakow-info.com/CenterJC.htm<BR/><BR/>I can't find right away a link to the other which was older and on the end of Szeroka Street opposite the Old Synagogue on the other end of Szeroka.<BR/><BR/>Apparently, the newest one you are writing about is on the grounds of the Tempel Synagogue.<BR/><BR/>Which "community center" do Krakow Jews mostly frequent?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-57549922647968144722008-04-30T14:10:00.000+02:002008-04-30T14:10:00.000+02:00I visited two Jewish Cultural Centers in Kazimierz...I visited two Jewish Cultural Centers in Kazimierz in Krakow in 2003. One near the Old Synagogue (where I saw a Klezmer band perform in a newly renovated building) and another nearer the Remuh Synagogue on the far end of Szeroka Street (where I ate lunch and bought one of those little wooden Jew statues for a Jewish friend of mine) <BR/><BR/>I've already shown that the US government funded one of them in the amount of $2 million back in the late 1990s - as the article about it I linked was written in 1998. And it was called the "Jewish Cultural Center."<BR/><BR/>Maybe there are now three such centers. Maybe one is a "center," the other a "centre" and the other a whatever.<BR/><BR/>Your continued insistence that there was previously never any such animal is a bit odd.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-15139823314975417682008-04-30T09:44:00.000+02:002008-04-30T09:44:00.000+02:00Geez. That centre and a there are a few others is ...Geez. That centre and a there are a few others is there to educate Poles and others about Jewish history etc. What Charlie Boy did yesterday was open a COMMUNITY centre - i.e. a place for the Jewish community. Before there was no community centre in Krakow. <BR/><BR/>Can you see the difference? <BR/><BR/>I have just spoken to someone that went around the place yesterday and apparently it looks like a five story Chinese eatery...with red pillars and gold balls everywhere.beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-35473341383691435512008-04-29T23:26:00.000+02:002008-04-29T23:26:00.000+02:00So you're saying that the Jewish Cultural Center t...So you're saying that the Jewish Cultural Center to which you're making reference is different than the one in this article, dated 1998?<BR/><BR/>http://www.jewishaz.com/jewishnews/980417/jews.shtml<BR/><BR/>Or do you have a different understanding of "grand opening" than I do? As in opening its doors to the public for the first time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-21999923153599397192008-04-29T21:52:00.000+02:002008-04-29T21:52:00.000+02:00No, Geez, this was quite a big thing down there. A...No, Geez, this was quite a big thing down there. And it's been good publicity for Krakow council. I think there were plans to build some kind of center anyway, but he gave it the BiG name kick it needed. <BR/><BR/>and you are right - the many claims by Americans to solving the Northern Ireland problem - Clinton et al - is slightly puke making.beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-45959608238100088362008-04-29T21:38:00.000+02:002008-04-29T21:38:00.000+02:00And obviously, it wasn't a grand opening.And it se...And obviously, it wasn't a grand opening.<BR/><BR/>And it seems that most of the administrators of the Jewish Cultural Center are not Jewish.<BR/><BR/>Unless there are competing Jewish centers in Krakow....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com