tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post115697882409136462..comments2024-03-20T10:19:56.838+01:00Comments on the beatroot: Whatever happened to the solidarity in Solidarność?beatroothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-78135263493758086812011-12-05T09:43:55.187+01:002011-12-05T09:43:55.187+01:00The guy is totally just, and there is no skepticis...The guy is totally just, and there is no skepticism.www.publicidad.org.eshttp://www.publicidad.org.esnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-21701726710196467662009-09-11T07:14:08.119+02:002009-09-11T07:14:08.119+02:00Nice blog. I a also ardent player of WOW GOLD. I l...Nice blog. I a also ardent player of WOW GOLD. I love this game. Nice posting about wow gold. ThanksBUY WOW GOLDhttp://www.randyrun.es/World-of-Warcraft-EU/WoW-Gold-kaufen:::2220_5367.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1157583723032699072006-09-07T01:02:00.000+02:002006-09-07T01:02:00.000+02:00Cheers.Cheers.beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1157502946929625882006-09-06T02:35:00.000+02:002006-09-06T02:35:00.000+02:00I hope it may be helpful:www.obywatel.org.pl/solid...I hope it may be helpful:<BR/><A HREF="http://www.obywatel.org.pl/solidarnosc/hydepark/medal_of_freedom.htm" REL="nofollow"><BR/>www.obywatel.org.pl/solidarnosc</A><BR/><BR/>A letter from Andrzej Gwiazda to The Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation Chairman.<BR/><BR/>This website is probably the best about present activity of Gwiazda and other solidarity "fundamentalists". <BR/>Unfortunatelly mostly in polishAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1157287383291922952006-09-03T14:43:00.000+02:002006-09-03T14:43:00.000+02:00More quicksand. Waaay too many parties.More quicksand. Waaay too many parties.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1157272023046630692006-09-03T10:27:00.000+02:002006-09-03T10:27:00.000+02:00Try herehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_El...Try here<BR/><BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_Electoral_Actionbeatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1157232488795919232006-09-02T23:28:00.000+02:002006-09-02T23:28:00.000+02:00Now I'm completely lost. What is "the government o...Now I'm completely lost. What is "the government of Solidarity Election Action"? And even if the historians were nominated by this "government," who voted them into the Institute? No wonder Poles don't vote. This is like being sucked into quicksand.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1157217014738517152006-09-02T19:10:00.000+02:002006-09-02T19:10:00.000+02:00Most of the historians had been nominated by the g...Most of the historians had been nominated by the government of Solidarity Election Action - a right wing government with many of the people in the the present government.beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1157216145753754092006-09-02T18:55:00.000+02:002006-09-02T18:55:00.000+02:00Thanks for the link to the Institute's website, BR...Thanks for the link to the Institute's website, BR. It notes that the Institute was established by Parliament (the Sejm?) and it's President and 11 member Council are elected -- but doesn't mention by whom. By the Sejm? Anybody have any idea? Has there been any criticism made of those chosen by, say, Michnik, or the folks at Tygodnik Powszechny? I just read somewhere, too, that the Church has called for the priests who collaborated with the Communist regime to resign.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1157198604730100202006-09-02T14:03:00.000+02:002006-09-02T14:03:00.000+02:00Ignacy - you can see the list of historians and a ...Ignacy - you can see the list of historians and a bit about what they are specialist in here<BR/><BR/>http://www.ipn.gov.pl/index_eng.html<BR/><BR/>The Walentynowicz/Gwiazda thing should be seen seperatly from the Kuron thing - Kuron did talk to secret services. What he said and why is being siputed. But the Walentynowicz thing is coming from a different place by different people.beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1157106443197162792006-09-01T12:27:00.000+02:002006-09-01T12:27:00.000+02:00One of the articles you linked referenced Gwiazda ...One of the articles you linked referenced Gwiazda as having been a leader in the "world order movement" after 1989. Know anything about that?<BR/><BR/>Are Gwiazda and Walentynowicz actually supportive of Macierewicz or is it the Institute people who support what he's done/doing? <BR/><BR/>Who are the historians in the Institute who are leading the charge? Who appointed them to their positions? Who runs the Institute?<BR/><BR/>Dzieki for responding.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1157097906344620932006-09-01T10:05:00.000+02:002006-09-01T10:05:00.000+02:00Walentynowicz and Gwiazda never entered politics. ...Walentynowicz and Gwiazda never entered politics. They were trade unionist. Both of them though that Walesa compromised himself with the communists right from when he signed those August agreements with the big pen with the face of JP II on it. <BR/><BR/>They are not the ones criticizing Kuron – that is coming from the historians in the Institute. There beef is more with Walesa. They are also supporting Macierewicz (another one of the old Solidartity ‘fundamentalists’ on his accusation that foeeign ministers were spies. He kind of apologized after this remark and many in the government - for instance Sikorski – have distanced themsselves from it. <BR/><BR/>There are several different but related matters here. All I was trying to do was bring them all together. At a time when Solidarity should be celebrating it bitching and whining and eating itself.beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1157038330461694512006-08-31T17:32:00.000+02:002006-08-31T17:32:00.000+02:00"National Institute of Remembrance (Poland’s Truth..."National Institute of Remembrance (Poland’s Truth and Reconciliation Committee, but without the reconciliation)"<BR/><BR/>and not much Truth either...michael farrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10232229721381140090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1157031484972905822006-08-31T15:38:00.000+02:002006-08-31T15:38:00.000+02:00What are Walentynowicz and Gwiazda specifically sa...What are Walentynowicz and Gwiazda specifically saying about Kuron? Are they suggesting they he somehow sold them out or cut a deal for himself? Are they really claiming that this group of 20 was not authorized by Walesa, even though he says they were? Are Gwiazda and Walentynowicz being critical of Kuron at all? Have they called Walesa a liar in response to his claims? Were Gwiazda or Walentynowicz on this committee? Who were the others on the committee? And what group did Kuron want to exclude -- the Lepper forerunners? What party do Gwiazda and Walentynowicz support today? How close are they to each other politically? Are they still involved in Solidarnosc? Pardon my ignorance, BR, but a little more detail would be greatly appreciated -- as is the link you provided to the Anna Proletariat movie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1157003177931868252006-08-31T07:46:00.000+02:002006-08-31T07:46:00.000+02:00I have some other thoughts, but first I'll offer t...I have some other thoughts, but first I'll offer two observations from my years of living in Poland, ymmv.<BR/><BR/>I'm often amazed at how often Polish people I think would dislike each other (or who do actively dislike each other) can establish cordial and/or functional working relationships.<BR/><BR/>I'm even more amazed at how often Polish people who mostly agree and should be able to work together absolutely cannot and/or become bitter enemies after trying to do so (see PiS-PO post election debacle).<BR/><BR/>I've got some half-baked theories why this might be so, but nothing I want to commit myself in public to at present.michael farrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10232229721381140090noreply@blogger.com