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Go south of the Texas/Califor...<I>No sweatshops today? Go south of the Texas/California border. Or bop on over to Asia. Or what about those Poles in Italy recently? And what about sweatshops in the sun (agricultural production)? And it's the same kinda folks, same family line sometimes, still makin' da big bux offa other folks' misery. </I>?<BR/><BR/>We certainly have a lot of work to do...to progress....but we have come a long way. And we will go much firther I am sure. But if we go on like we are at the moment, with people even questioning the possibility of progress then the struggle to become civilized is even harder than it already is and has been. <BR/><BR/>Viva le Englightenment!!!!!beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1156368128640134042006-08-23T23:22:00.000+02:002006-08-23T23:22:00.000+02:00Pfaff's writing about morality not creature comfor...Pfaff's writing about morality not creature comforts or even rights. <BR/><BR/>He explains in the same article,"I do not deny the obvious development of society-institutional and legal progress, the benefits of representative government, the internationalized norms of justice (now, alas, under attack by the present U.S. government, which in its treatment of enemies has reverted to a barbarism last experienced in Nazi-occupied Europe), the increase of scientific knowledge, and the accumulation of the power technology affords. The moral progress of individual men and women is another matter." <BR/><BR/>While he ain't claimin' we be "devo," he's not seeing the human capacity for choosing good over evil as at all improving. Indivially and not collectively, either. <BR/><BR/>No sweatshops today? Go south of the Texas/California border. Or bop on over to Asia. Or what about those Poles in Italy recently? And what about sweatshops in the sun (agricultural production)? And it's the same kinda folks, same family line sometimes, still makin' da big bux offa other folks' misery.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1156360865815064752006-08-23T21:21:00.000+02:002006-08-23T21:21:00.000+02:00Ignacy: if you are into good rock music, I see the...Ignacy: <I>if you are into good rock music, I see the Yeah, Yeah, Yeahs will be in Warsaw soon.</I><BR/><BR/>I know them. Good. I have played guitar and other stuff what feels like all my life, so slightly punky American bands go well with me. <BR/><BR/><I>It seems, though, that the values you want to preserve are the same of which you are oft so critical: ie., western liberalism.</I><BR/><BR/>Problem here is with the word ‘liberalism’. If you mean classical J S Mills type liberalism then fine. But liberals today are a very different breed. They are actually extremely conservative and illiberal. <BR/><BR/>And I thought the article relativist because of bits like this:<BR/><BR/><I> I do not believe in human progress. There is no evidence that humans today are, morally speaking, an improvement on the Attic Greeks, or the Christians of medieval Europe-or for that matter, the Magdalenian cave painters.</I><BR/><BR/>And that is not relativist?<BR/><BR/>Following that logic I cannot say that modern day London is better than Victorian London, with its disgusting workshops and disease and poverty. And if I cannot say that then I cannot say that modern day London is progress from modern day Saudi Arabia where women cannot go out unaccompanied and even drive a car.<BR/><BR/>But I can say that and I do think that. That’s progress!beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1156335943276757112006-08-23T14:25:00.000+02:002006-08-23T14:25:00.000+02:00Well, thanks for reading it. I don't get the relat...Well, thanks for reading it. I don't get the relativist quip but so it goes.<BR/><BR/>It seems, though, that the values you want to preserve are the same of which you are oft so critical: ie., western liberalism.<BR/><BR/>And about geographical accidents and such, see Jared Diamond's Guns, Germs and Steel which, I think, presents a very unique and sophisticated analysis, groundbreaking really, of why the west came out and remains on top of the heap. <BR/><BR/>BTW, if you are into good rock music, I see the Yeah, Yeah, Yeahs will be in Warsaw soon. Check them out!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1156313522641572212006-08-23T08:12:00.000+02:002006-08-23T08:12:00.000+02:00I think that is a relativist text, Ignacy, so no, ...I think that is a relativist text, Ignacy, so no, don’t like it.<BR/><BR/>But I think the problem comes with the definition of ‘western’. The west is really just the deposit of the best of ‘human values’ and progress. That these have happened in the ‘west’ is just a geographical accident. <BR/><BR/>When Europe was in the dark ages China, the middle east, Indian were much more advanced in the many ways than the countries in the western hemisphere. <BR/>It was the collapse of the Chinese empire and the renaissance plus enlightenment that gave the west its impetus.<BR/><BR/>The article also criticizes colonialism….which I share too. In principle it was wrong and it actually had very mixed results for the countries affected. <BR/>But in general I would say that the progress we have made in the west is worth defending, particularly the values of the Enlightenment. <BR/><BR/>We can thank Copernicus etc for that.beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1156287866989715852006-08-23T01:04:00.000+02:002006-08-23T01:04:00.000+02:00If I read Deleuze maybe I would have wanted to blo...If I read Deleuze maybe I would have wanted to blow myself up too.lemuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17238658676004037072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1156167296400383862006-08-21T15:34:00.000+02:002006-08-21T15:34:00.000+02:00You'll probably hate this, BR, but on the price of...You'll probably hate this, BR, but on the price of "progress", here's a liberal Catholic perspective by William Pfaff:<BR/><BR/>http://www.commonwealmagazine.org/article.php3?id_article=1674Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1156110716547507392006-08-20T23:51:00.000+02:002006-08-20T23:51:00.000+02:00What, are you his agent?But thanks, it does seem t...What, are you his agent?<BR/><BR/>But thanks, it does seem to be on the same wavelength. A review says:<BR/><BR/><I>Stephen Bronner's study of the Enlightenment and its reception is not only superb but timely. Bronner rescues the Enlightenment from critics of both the left and the right. In the future, anyone who wants to defend arguments about ethical reason or scientific knowledge based on local prejudices will have to deal with Bronner's decisive arguments."</I><BR/><BR/>I would also point people towards Butterflies and wheels web site<BR/><BR/>http://www.butterfliesandwheels.com/notes.phpbeatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1156107558812042622006-08-20T22:59:00.000+02:002006-08-20T22:59:00.000+02:00Talking about the Enlightenment I just have to rec...Talking about the Enlightenment I just have to recommend Stephen Eric Bronner's timely book <A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0231126093/sr=8-1/qid=1156107080/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-0193023-6487049?ie=UTF8" REL="nofollow">Reclaiming the Enlightenment: Toward a Politics of Radical Engagement</A> which now is available in paperback.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1156055651329547142006-08-20T08:34:00.000+02:002006-08-20T08:34:00.000+02:00And you are right Step about what a huge subject t...And you are right Step about what a huge subject this is but a very necessary one. I want people - especially so called 'progressives' to start looking at their own societies and stop obsessing about the 'evil from without'. We should be trying to change our own societies because that is where the problem is...beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1156055359925958582006-08-20T08:29:00.000+02:002006-08-20T08:29:00.000+02:00Roman: As a civilized culture we have attained gre...Roman: <I>As a civilized culture we have attained great advances. We, through the lessons of bloody history, recognized early on that the separation of church and state is the best tried and true form of government. Democracy, while not perfect, beats the hell out of both left and right forms of fascist governments. </I><BR/><BR/>The threat to all that, which I agree are real social gains over the last century, comes from our post modernist culture. <BR/><BR/>Second, third generation Muslims are rejecting our society and those gains more than their parents did. And I would argue that they are doing that because they see a culture and a way of life that has no confidence in itself. It can't even hold the line on medicine and science, surly one of the great cultural gains of our society. So, under a multiculturalist 'anything goes' culture they are looking for something that seems to be more certain and absolute - nihilism. <BR/><BR/>Our culture should reject the wishywashy rubbish of Po Mo multiculturalism and start praising the progress we have made. <BR/><BR/>Not all cultures are equal...ours is (was) much better than what the jihadists want.beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1156019316393083102006-08-19T22:28:00.000+02:002006-08-19T22:28:00.000+02:00beatroot,The Po Mos so eloquently derscribed by yo...beatroot,<BR/><BR/>The Po Mos so eloquently derscribed by you should be a concern in the near future. <BR/><BR/>"It’s not them we should be scared of, it’s us."<BR/><BR/>I am not quite sure who you are refering to with "them" but the "us" I can definitely recognize. In my case, I am still very comfortable with "us". As a civilized culture we have attained great advances. We, through the lessons of bloody history, recognized early on that the separation of church and state is the best tried and true form of government. Democracy, while not perfect, beats the hell out of both left and right forms of fascist governments. Anyone using terror is, in fact, promoting chaos as a way to re-establish proven "failed" forms of rule and are mainly relying on ignorance as a weapon of mass destruction. <BR/>I agree, Po Mos that rely on mysticism instead of science will be a concern in the near future and will need to be addressed. The current strain of violent religious fundamentalism needs to be addressed now because it is the vanguard of this new phenomenon of mysticism over reality.<BR/>Right now, us I trust, them I don't.romanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15988548647887978919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1155991891784333702006-08-19T14:51:00.000+02:002006-08-19T14:51:00.000+02:00Terry Eagleton's latest book, Holy Terror is prett...<I>Terry Eagleton's latest book, Holy Terror is pretty cogent regards this topic. </I><BR/><BR/>Have not seen that yet but he is the best at Po MO bashing from the left. But it isn;t just trendy lefties who go in for this shit...check out John Grey! <BR/><BR/>But can you see what I am getting at? It’s the hole in our culture – the end of modernism really - that has opened us up to post modernist distrust of ‘truth’ ‘objectivity’ ‘progress’…I put all those in inverted commas to please the Po Mos…<BR/><BR/>Into that vacuum comes pre-Enlightenment thought…from homeopathy to Islamo-whatever…<BR/><BR/>Post modernists deny the possibility of social progress, they love ‘anything goes’ thinking. ‘Who is to say who is right and who is wrong’…baff, puke, vomit.<BR/><BR/>Politics consequently is all but useless. So whereas once Iraq would be fought politically, now it is fought nihilistically…by blowing up bombs without even claims of responsibility. No political goals at all…just a symbolic suicide bombing. <BR/><BR/>It’s not them we should be scared of, it’s us.beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.com