tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post115488784228814718..comments2024-03-20T10:19:56.838+01:00Comments on the beatroot: MSM, bloggers and Israeli-Lebanon conflict - Update: photogatebeatroothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1208797350622428252010-01-29T13:25:23.734+01:002010-01-29T13:25:23.734+01:00Wow,nice postWow,nice postWoW Accounthttp://www.randyrun.dk/World-of-Warcraft-EU/WoW-Accounts:::2220_3798.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-57217549327607765022009-11-12T10:53:54.673+01:002009-11-12T10:53:54.673+01:00Great post, Nice Read !
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He will now only be able to work as a wedding photographer!beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1155017907682563612006-08-08T08:18:00.000+02:002006-08-08T08:18:00.000+02:00"Secondly, why do the doctoring so badly? It was d..."Secondly, why do the doctoring so badly? It was done with a tool called 'clone' which you can find on photoshop."<BR/><BR/>My best guess is he couldn't see how fake it looked and assumed most news consumers wouldn't either. Far from being a natural ability, being able to make sense of photographs is an acquired skill and it's possible that the photoshop generation (not the same as anyone who uses it) 'sees' pictures differently that the rest of us.<BR/><BR/>I'm remind of charges of doctoring the photos of the Kallikak family:<BR/><BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kallikaks<BR/><BR/>The doctoring looks crude now, but I've read that at the time most people couldn't tell the difference.michael farrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10232229721381140090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1154990424308436562006-08-08T00:40:00.000+02:002006-08-08T00:40:00.000+02:00Yes, the Moore comparison was wrong. To what exten...Yes, the Moore comparison was wrong. To what extent Richard has a ‘smell for a story’ we shall see, and I wish him all the luck. But I was not impressed by his claims that bloggers have no reputation to lose, so what the hell. <BR/><BR/>His is a ‘splatter gun’ approach hoping something sticks. I don’t think that is good enough if blogs are to be taken seriously.beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1154983552939649972006-08-07T22:45:00.000+02:002006-08-07T22:45:00.000+02:00BeatrootI read your comments over on Richards blog...Beatroot<BR/><BR/>I read your comments over on Richards blog, and tend to agree with you. However, I don't know where you get that " Richard is a right wing conspiracy theorist. I kind of right wing Michael Moore."<BR/><BR/>He's not. Really. He's a guy with an uncanny nose for things which smell.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1154972548339415852006-08-07T19:42:00.000+02:002006-08-07T19:42:00.000+02:00Yeah, we have been meddling in that part of the wo...Yeah, we have been meddling in that part of the world for around 100 years. And look where that has got us...beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1154972323719509432006-08-07T19:38:00.000+02:002006-08-07T19:38:00.000+02:00I would challenge that claim that CBB Internationa...I would challenge that claim that CBB International (not the US one) is biased against Lebanon. I have been impressed with their coverage. Very good bit today about Hezbollah as a state within a state with all the things you expect from a state - social security, health service, construction services, everything. They are very popular in south Lebanon as a result. They are doing the things that the weak Lebanon state is not. <BR/><BR/>But every side complains about media during war time. It's predictable. But in days like these I think people are a little more savy - and we have a wide vareity of sources - that we can sort things out for ourselves.beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1154953573286785412006-08-07T14:26:00.000+02:002006-08-07T14:26:00.000+02:00Penquin: I ain't gonna take sides on this Israel-L...Penquin: I ain't gonna take sides on this Israel-Lebanon thing. What I don;t like is western intervention...more of which later.<BR/><BR/>Gustav: On the forum he was on the defensive with me. But on his posts he is back to the old bombastic Richard. <BR/><BR/>he's a bit of a character!beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1154953340533559282006-08-07T14:22:00.000+02:002006-08-07T14:22:00.000+02:00It's coming down to actually being there and seein...It's coming down to actually being there and seeing it for yourself because no one can be trusted anymore. And that's quite sad. One has to wonder if Israel really pulled out of the Gaza strip then.polishpenguinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07681395865790238082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1154947370772432332006-08-07T12:42:00.000+02:002006-08-07T12:42:00.000+02:00I read the white t-shirt scandal over at EU Refere...I read the white t-shirt scandal over at EU Referendum, and I agree with you beatroot. I think that the blogosphere is a fantastic check on the mainstream media - though I don't think that's blogging's raison d'etre as some bloggers do. But when we make an accusation of bias, we'd better be prepared to back up our arguments with hard facts - which is exactly why Richard's statement about the white t-shirt guy controversy not being the "crux of his argument" as you put it, is wrong. It is essential that when someone make an accusation as inflammatory as his, they back it up. Otherwise, journalists who really are manipulating stories or omitting facts won't feel the need to explain themselves when a blogger finds a real inconsistency.Gustavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07089212637542832062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1154945727454757942006-08-07T12:15:00.000+02:002006-08-07T12:15:00.000+02:00As you were posting that I just made a further lin...As you were posting that I just made a further link to the Rueters photoshopping story. And yeah, conservatives are having a great time. Richard started this thing off so I bet he still feels justified. <BR/><BR/>The white t-shirt man though was a bit of a red herring (emphasis on 'red) and paranoia can do this to people. But the debate is legit. So is the one about blogging and how reliable we are...or not.beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1154944768010779602006-08-07T11:59:00.000+02:002006-08-07T11:59:00.000+02:00The Reuters photoshopping story is legit though, a...The Reuters photoshopping story is legit though, and all of the <A HREF="http://rednecktexan.blogspot.com/2006/08/reuters-admits-altering-beirut-photo.html" REL="nofollow">conservative blogs are having a howl over it</A>. Then there's <A HREF="http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3256534,00.html" REL="nofollow">this story</A>. I think it's fair to ask whether the MSM is biased. If not, and in the photoshopping case they were just being sensationalist - as I would like to believe - rather than biased, then has anybody out there found one instance of the MSM sensationalizing a story or especially a photograph "enhanced" to emphasize Israeli suffering?<BR/><BR/>That would prove just unethical journalism, not a bias.<BR/><BR/>But so far I haven't seen anything like that.Gustavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07089212637542832062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1154898390068470562006-08-06T23:06:00.000+02:002006-08-06T23:06:00.000+02:00Mike: what Richard is saying is that ‘leftie’ war ...Mike: what Richard is saying is that ‘leftie’ war photographers have been taking pictures of dead children that have been staged, controlled, invented, by Hezbollah.<BR/><BR/>I think that completely misunderstands the minds of war journalists. <BR/><BR/>They are not trying to get a shot that everyone else has….which is all they would get with a ‘staged’ photo op – they are trying to get the shot that no other photographer gets. Most photo journalists in a war zone are freelance. And freelance photographers get paid by the ‘money shot’…the photo that is unique. <BR/><BR/>Richard is a right wing conspiracy theorist. I kind of right wing Michael Moore.beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1154897671477753162006-08-06T22:54:00.000+02:002006-08-06T22:54:00.000+02:00Stefan, are you serious?I received three comment p...Stefan, are you serious?<BR/><BR/>I received three comment posts from you ALL OF WHICH WERE IDENTICAL.<BR/><BR/>Do you really think that what you said was soooo interesting that we should publish it THREE TIMES?beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1154897485864695362006-08-06T22:51:00.001+02:002006-08-06T22:51:00.001+02:00In the same vein. I'm not 100% it's the same woman...In the same vein. I'm not 100% it's the same woman, but ....<BR/><BR/>http://drinkingfromhome.blogspot.com/2006/08/extreme-makeover-beirut-edition.htmlmichael farrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10232229721381140090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1154897293838151992006-08-06T22:48:00.000+02:002006-08-06T22:48:00.000+02:00For once Stefan has a point. Of course lots of pic...For once Stefan has a point. Of course lots of pictures and film are staged. That's just one more weapon in this conflict, being used more effectively by the Lebanese at present.michael farrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10232229721381140090noreply@blogger.com