tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post2283613407544787797..comments2024-03-20T10:19:56.838+01:00Comments on the beatroot: Live Earth on Polish TVbeatroothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-56075207528098121092013-02-23T16:54:20.798+01:002013-02-23T16:54:20.798+01:00Hmm it appears like your site ate my first comment...Hmm it appears like your site ate my first comment (it was super <br />long) so I guess I'll just sum it up what I submitted and say, I'm <br />thoroughly enjoying your blog. I too am an aspiring blog blogger but I'm still new to the whole thing. Do you have any recommendations for first-time blog writers? 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It might mean that they are aware that western folk don't want them to develop so fast and would rather they got back on their bikes.beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-35899587411412276872007-07-11T00:27:00.000+02:002007-07-11T00:27:00.000+02:00"There was a Live Earth event in Beijing, but I un..."There was a Live Earth event in Beijing, but I understand (from reading Guardian reports) that it was poorly attended, 3 000 at best."<BR/><BR/>Surely this poor turnout strongly suggets that awareness does still need to be raised (contrary to what Beatroot says: "...something that everybody ‘knows’ and is ‘aware’ of already?").<BR/><BR/>And who is moaning loudest about the carbon-price of putting on a concert...? Not greens, but their opponents.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-10374868430242081852007-07-09T04:16:00.000+02:002007-07-09T04:16:00.000+02:00I know it's an obvious point, but seriously, promo...I know it's an obvious point, but seriously, promoting climate change by hosting a series of huge events with all the associated power usage from lighting, sound, not to mention the broadcasting proceedings around the world to people sitting indoors watching television... is that honestly the best they can come up with? 'Fucking for chastity' has popped into my mind and won't go away, for some reason.<BR/><BR/>I can fully understand the awkward nature of recently industrialized nations (and those where the process is still taking place by and large)- such as those in Eastern Europe, Asia and Africa - towards the West on this issue. It does smack of colonialist aloofness, wishing to deny others that which has so improved life for oneself. There was a Live Earth event in Beijing, but I understand (from reading Guardian reports) that it was poorly attended, 3 000 at best. Convincing nations such as China to develop in a green fashion, perhaps encouraging the development of such industries through trade incentives or even loans and grants, seems to me the real hurdle on the issue. That, and convincing the USA's drivers that petrol is a disappearing commodity and should be treated as such.<BR/><BR/>In any case, it's easy to make a pledge relating to one's 'carbon footprint' while in the midst of a mutual back-slap-cum-finger-wag, but I sincerely hope those pledges don't go the way of so many New Year's Resolutions...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-34790000892793327162007-07-07T23:03:00.000+02:002007-07-07T23:03:00.000+02:00Anyway, I love the idea that I should make a payme...Anyway, I love the idea that I should make a payment (ehm, sorry, a donation) for my sins (ehm, sorry, CO2 production) to the Al Gore's church (ehm, sorry, fundation) so I can receive an absolution (ehm, sorry, offset my environmental impact). <BR/><BR/>Anyway if you don't like Al Gore, you can buy carbon offset from me. I will use the money for planting trees in my garden, I promise (minus the admnistrative and processing fees, of course).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-55388285182140743952007-07-07T21:14:00.000+02:002007-07-07T21:14:00.000+02:00I know! Doctor, I am in climate change denial! May...I know! Doctor, I am in climate change denial! Maybe, like Al Gore says on the web site, I should “Take the pledge”… <BR/><BR/>I am looking on the Live Earth web site at the Climate Crisis Tool Kit under the ‘Solutions’ section. 50 ways to help save the planet. Number 49 says: Buy less stuff…<BR/><BR/>I see. So if we buy less stuff, we make less stuff…and if we make less stuff then we can employ less people to make the stuff….which means that we don’t have to export either products or workers from those pesky emerging economies…which cuts down on all that nasty carbon emissions….<BR/><BR/>Hmmmm….and its me who’s meant to be sick?beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-28197039016659457792007-07-07T21:13:00.000+02:002007-07-07T21:13:00.000+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-67048406580335962042007-07-07T17:57:00.000+02:002007-07-07T17:57:00.000+02:00oh honey, you are sick.oh honey, you are sick.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-40775897748666043662007-07-07T08:03:00.000+02:002007-07-07T08:03:00.000+02:00Since you are getting personal on Al Bore (sic), a...<I>Since you are getting personal on Al Bore (sic), are you not a rich westerner yourself?</I><BR/><BR/>Me, a RICH westerner? A westerner yes, but RICH? I live in a one bedroom flat in Warsaw with girlfriend and dog. The rich westerner I was referring to was Gore. He is a very rich person. In fact, most of the leaders of the environmentalists are all very rich indeed. In fact, in the UK, all the top tree huggers – Monbiot, Zac Goldsmith, Porrit, are public school boys on a guilt trip about their conspicuous consumption lifestyles….<BR/><BR/>Heat Seeker<BR/><I>How do you suppose this trend can be changed?</I><BR/><BR/>Environmentalists are obsessed with DEMAND….they think by cutting demand (and forcing developing countries to slow down growth) will save us from oblivion. <BR/><BR/>a) the future forecasts of this oblivion are not as ‘scientific as Gore and others try and point out’. And<BR/>b) If societies are going to have to adapt in the future then they will be much more able to do so if they are economically developed. Nature ravages poor and underdeveloped societies, not developed ones. Holland can cope with being flooded because it has the resources and know how to fight nature. <BR/><BR/>Mike – yeah I meant ‘immoral’….changed…..but I meant for Gore, Poles wanting more development up to and beyond the current standard of the west is immoral. <BR/><BR/><I>The whole carbon-craze at present seems (to me) to be just another example of the hierarchy of needs in action. Westerners with no pressing physical, financial threats look to become more fulfilled and look for morality to do so.</I><BR/><BR/>I would out it another way. Without any real ideological choices politically – without any future orientated politics in west anymore, then all that is left is stuff like environmentalism. <BR/><BR/>And there is a new law of politics: Green angst is directly in proportion to those whose consumption will increase the most. Hence Gore, Goldsmith etc…beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-83968115704851951192007-07-06T22:38:00.000+02:002007-07-06T22:38:00.000+02:00"Al Gore, is amoral"He doesn't recognise (and cann..."Al Gore, is amoral"<BR/><BR/>He doesn't recognise (and cannot be categorised by) principles of right and wrong?<BR/><BR/>Perhaps you meant 'immoral'?<BR/><BR/>The whole carbon-craze at present seems (to me) to be just another example of the hierarchy of needs in action. Westerners with no pressing physical, financial threats look to become more fulfilled and look for morality to do so. But with traditional models of religions discredited for most of them (rightly or wrongly) they're bumping and stumbling looking for models of moral self-actualization. Mostly harmless (to the extent that countries that can't afford it aren't compelled to follow in their footsteps) and possibly beneficial.<BR/><BR/>As for the concert thing ... my, what an outdated an uninspired/ing thing to do. 20, maybe 15 years ago lots of Poles would have been interested in it as a musical event (sans movement chic) but ... now? Isn't TVP kultura a channel that nobody watches anyway? I mean, I do, sometimes when they show weird foreign movies, but I'm hardly your typical tv viewer (anywhere, but esp in Poland)michael farrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10232229721381140090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-72682303055278820152007-07-06T21:33:00.000+02:002007-07-06T21:33:00.000+02:00BR - I hear you: recycling, solar lighting, reduc...BR - I hear you: recycling, solar lighting, reducing carbon emissions, eliminating toxic waste runoffs, etc, it's all pain in you-know-what. The Soviet-style industrialization was, to put it mildly, not very environment-friendly. As a result, virtually all former Soviet Block countries, including Poland, were left with infrastructures geared toward unmitigated exploitation of resources without any thought given to the environmental consequences. How do you suppose this trend can be changed? The rich and the politicians are not interested - building modern industrial infrastructure cuts into the profits. The middle class is trying to keep up with the Joneses (aspiring?...) and is happy as long as it gets its piece of the pie. And, the lower classes just try to survive. What Al G. is trying to do is to raise the sense of personal responsibility for the changes that now become visible with the naked eye. I see more and more people in the US waking up to the fact that as consumers we, regular folks, can make a huge difference in the direction of the future economic development by demanding technologies that are cleaner and safer. I don’t see self-flagellation. I see demands for change where changes can be made. If there is a better way – please share. <BR/>PS: Is “western liberal” a bad word? How about “western conservative”? Do those labels mean anything other than being just that – labels?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08630147794309755529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-70504203553321498912007-07-06T20:35:00.000+02:002007-07-06T20:35:00.000+02:00"...being lectured by rich westerners ... is frank..."...being lectured by rich westerners ... is frankly, a pain in the neck."<BR/><BR/>True, true. Has no bearing whatever on the content of those lectures. It's not nice to hear Putin of all people warn that a world with one superpower is dangerous but, again, it doesn't mean he's wrong.<BR/><BR/>Since you are getting personal on Al Bore (sic), are you not a rich westerner yourself?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com