tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post114133897901670989..comments2024-03-20T10:19:56.838+01:00Comments on the beatroot: CIA Polish gulags updatebeatroothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1141413915285110462006-03-03T20:25:00.000+01:002006-03-03T20:25:00.000+01:00The thing that worries me about the prisoners is t...The thing that worries me about the prisoners is that they are being held without trial - and they can do that because they have declared a 'war on terrorism' - although nobody has actually made a formal declaration of war against anybody because this is not, of course, a 'war' at all. <BR/><BR/>But the language of war and fear can be used to justify ignoring human rights.<BR/><BR/>Becca - the British have had over 100 flights touch down on their soil, the Germans even more. Poland has not even had ten flights touch down here. But nobody is suggesting that 'gulags' are in operation in the Tower of London! I wonder why?<BR/><BR/>One of my beefs is that the Democrats in the US - and Clintonite NGOs like HRW - are using Poland and central Europe to bash Bush. <BR/><BR/>Which just goes to show how pathetic the opposition to Bush from liberals in the US has been these past few years. They cannot win arguments against the Republicans so they use irrational fear (P&O to bash Bush, they use 'gulags' to bash the CIA... They seem unable to form coherent opposition to Bush because, in fact, they agree with most of Bush is about (war on terror, war on Iraq...) If they can't beat foolslikethe Bush regime now then they never will. <BR/><BR/>And that's sad. The only people worse than the Bushies are some of their opponents.beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1141396525960892572006-03-03T15:35:00.000+01:002006-03-03T15:35:00.000+01:00This definition of human rights abuses seems a bit...This definition of human rights abuses seems a bit weird to me. Nobody accuses East European countries of actually torturing anyone. The only accusation is that the CIA lied (or didn't lie)to those governments about who was inside some airplanes that landed on their territory. Even if it's true, that's hardly a crime against humanity. <BR/><BR/>And even if the HRW actually proves that some Taliban or Al-Quaeda prisoners were held in a camp or a prison in Eastern Europe, it still isn't illegal according to the international law, unless they were tortured or killed without trial.soniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00938174968325568608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1141376194011842232006-03-03T09:56:00.000+01:002006-03-03T09:56:00.000+01:00In this New York Times article, they report how n...In <A HREF="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/02/international/europe/02europe.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin" REL="nofollow">this</A> New York Times article, they report how not only is the European Parliament having problems finding evidence, but that countries are refusing to cooperate with the Council of Europe. They asked if any of their officials had been involved in the extrajudicial transportation or detention of terrorism suspects. The answer?<BR/><BR/>'No country said yes; some failed to reply adequately or at all. [The Secretary General] singled out Italy and Poland for special criticism, as well as two former Yugoslav republics, Macedonia and Bosnia and Herzegovina. Albania's response was so cursory it was not even included.'Beccahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14725974012003484627noreply@blogger.com