tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post113216559606487694..comments2024-03-13T03:13:59.610+01:00Comments on the beatroot: Poles ban gay parade, EU bans anti-abortion exhibitbeatroothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1132574196240283922005-11-21T12:56:00.000+01:002005-11-21T12:56:00.000+01:00he's PO for sure, and is actually ex-Unio Wolnosci...he's PO for sure, and is actually ex-Unio Wolnosci, a party usually once thought to be the most 'westernised' in a liberal sense. PO have been very quiet on the homophobia issue. But it shows that my argument all along that Platform are not a 'liberal' party is correct.beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1132505320556245712005-11-20T17:48:00.000+01:002005-11-20T17:48:00.000+01:00On the Europarliamant: thanks for the link, if the...On the Europarliamant: thanks for the link, if they got permission ahead of time, by all means let LPR make fools of themselves (and increase the international perception of Poles as ignorant anti-semites).<BR/><BR/>On Poznan: the comment by the mayor (sort of a do-nothing blowhard imho) I saw was something to the effect that the march could lead to violence (displaying either ignorance of who instigated the violence last year or approval of same). Though, actually he's not the most offensive politician in Poznan, by a long shot (the one who was against funding an abused women's shelter because single mothers were "pathological" takes that particular cake).<BR/>I didn't realise the mayor was in PO. There was something in the press some time ago that when PO was being formed he was invited to join and he demured (not wanting to tied down to an unknown quantity), later when PO was becoming more influential he wanted to join but by then they weren't so sure he'd be an asset.michael farrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10232229721381140090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1132496415817830292005-11-20T15:20:00.000+01:002005-11-20T15:20:00.000+01:00I put a link in the text giving more infor about t...I put a link in the text giving more infor about the exhibitionbeatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1132419911799134652005-11-19T18:05:00.000+01:002005-11-19T18:05:00.000+01:00Although I was under the impression that the mayor...Although I was under the impression that the mayor was one supports the ban. And he is from PO. Just olike in Krakopw, where a similar thing happened, the 'liberal' Platform ain;t so liberal at all.beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1132392995560854982005-11-19T10:36:00.000+01:002005-11-19T10:36:00.000+01:00Before I defend LPR (a frightening concept since I...Before I defend LPR (a frightening concept since I they're a frightening party) I'd like to know more of the exhibit details. That is, was it in some sort of exhibition space, was permission required/granted etc. <BR/><BR/>If they played by the rules and were shut down in contradiction to the rules, then I'll support their right to stage the exhibit. <BR/><BR/>The Poznan case is really different, the mayor said (paraphrasing) that the city is letting violent thugs of the kind that disrupted the parade last year dictate its politics.michael farrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10232229721381140090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1132392730517505612005-11-19T10:32:00.000+01:002005-11-19T10:32:00.000+01:00I broke the rule myself...see deleted comment.I broke the rule myself...see deleted comment.beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1132362077624444172005-11-19T02:01:00.000+01:002005-11-19T02:01:00.000+01:00"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend t..."I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."<BR/><BR/>VoltaireBeccahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14725974012003484627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1132361040423884132005-11-19T01:44:00.000+01:002005-11-19T01:44:00.000+01:00Hate speech: It's ok to state your point of view u...Hate speech: <BR/>It's ok to state your point of view unless it puts another person, or group of people in danger.<BR/><BR/>I'm ignoring your second rule of blogging beatroot ;-) but I can delete this in the morning right?Beccahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14725974012003484627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1132351837862933842005-11-18T23:10:00.000+01:002005-11-18T23:10:00.000+01:00Voltaire on the beatroot blog! That's class!Voltaire on the beatroot blog! That's class!beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1132350864878022612005-11-18T22:54:00.000+01:002005-11-18T22:54:00.000+01:00That sounds like the famous American philosopher V...That sounds like the famous American philosopher Voltaire to me, Gustav.lemuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17238658676004037072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1132306365017984192005-11-18T10:32:00.000+01:002005-11-18T10:32:00.000+01:00I agrre. Great times in America those. But I am su...I agrre. Great times in America those. But I am suprised there is so much agreement on this. Conservatives have always used the law to smother free speech they didn't like. But in the last couple of decades liberals hav been doing it too. For instance, things like 'hate speech'. When is it OK to curb free speech and expression?beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1132255307925781912005-11-17T20:21:00.000+01:002005-11-17T20:21:00.000+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1132255019905303792005-11-17T20:16:00.000+01:002005-11-17T20:16:00.000+01:00There's a saying in the States, I don't know if yo...There's a saying in the States, I don't know if you have it here in Europe:<BR/><BR/>"I disagree with what you say, but I'll fight by your side for your right to say it."<BR/><BR/>For me it was always associated with American Revolution/First Amendment ideas.Gustavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07089212637542832062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1132245457762161302005-11-17T17:37:00.000+01:002005-11-17T17:37:00.000+01:00You've seen them, they're those ultrascans of feot...You've seen them, they're those ultrascans of feotuses, they look like photos.<BR/><BR/>I'm with you on this one. I am (rather predictably I'm afraid) against these gay pride parades being banned and also pro-choice, but I wholeheartedly agree that it is the right of those on both sides to express their views.<BR/><BR/>If you can't argue your side, how strongly can you hold your position?Beccahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14725974012003484627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13112593.post-1132222928905913962005-11-17T11:22:00.000+01:002005-11-17T11:22:00.000+01:00I see what you mean...I see what you mean...beatroothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242716221133886807noreply@blogger.com